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A Relegation Battle And A New Stadium

Posted by Luke on April 2, 2007 12:49 PM | 

Isn’t that just typical of Newcastle United? Less than 48 hours after the team were booed off after another dreadful display against Manchester City and the stadium emptied faster than a bag full of condoms at a swingers party, the Magpies announce plans to expand the capacity of St James's Park to 60,000.

Erm, great idea, very ambitious and all that, but has it ever occurred to the powers that be that, at this rate, they are going to struggle to fill a 52,000 stadium? It’s all very well having a massive stadium to rival the big four, but ultimately, what’s the point when you can’t compete with them on the pitch?

The loyalty of Newcastle’s supporters can’t be called into question - I did it once and got into all kinds of trouble - but they are tired of unfulfilled ambition and failed aspirations, they are disillusioned with a manager who cannot seem to inspire the players now that his injury problems have disappeared, they are irritated by the way the club is run and they are angry at the efforts of players who shrink into their shells as soon as any criticism comes their way.

I’ve always said that loyalty can only blind people for so long and this season has been a real eye opener for a lot of supporters, including my girlfriend who has threatened to do something very nasty with a pair of scissors to someone at St James’s Park whose identity will remain anonymous.

She’s only joking of course - at least I hope she is because otherwise that would reveal a worryingly violent side to her personality which doesn’t bode well - but her patience, as with those around her, has simply snapped after 20 years of underachievement.

I suspect, given the volatile mood on Tyneside on Monday morning, the decision to unveil the plans for expansion were made before Glenn Roeder’s side delivered the sort of abject performance which will have infuriated even the most patient and understanding supporter.

Roeder would refer to these rank and file supporters as the silent majority - rather than the vocal minority who dare to complain about how things have been managed this season (see Glenn Roeder - The Response Is Here) - but there weren’t many people silent on Saturday afternoon.

Roeder has carried a lot of good will this season and he certainly talks a good game in terms of what needs to change at the club, but there are serious doubts about his ability to communicate that to his players given the performances and results of the last two months.

As for the players, well there are too many who aren’t good enough and some who simply don’t try hard enough. Big, sweeping changes are needed, but the big worry is - and one which has conveniently been ignored - the players Newcastle want to keep, might have had enough as well and look for moves in the summer.

I must be honest, I wasn’t at the game, I was in Cardiff watching Sunderland chisel out another win which keeps them among the promotion pack, but every single person I’ve spoken to who was has described Newcastle’s performance as “awful�. And some of those were players....

Watching Sunderland, though, made one thing abundantly clear. The Black Cats under Roy Keane and Niall Quinn are on an upward curve and the club’s supporters are reveling in the experience. There is a feel good factor around the place which has not been seen since Peter Reid’s glory days and the mood could not be more different to the one up the road at Newcastle.

It is a worrying time to be a Newcastle supporter and plans for a new, expanded stadium isn’t going to do anything to change that.

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Comments (19)

Richard wrote...

I thought it was an April Fool's joke until I realised that was Sunday. Does the chairman have any idea of the anger and resentment there is towards him and the club at the moment. We've got no hope of filling a 60,000 stadium unless we are challenging at the top of the Premiership, not looking over our shoulders at relegation.

Posted by: Richard  | April 2, 2007 4:31 PM

ron lambert wrote...

I once thought, like most Toon supporters that Big Sam Allerdice would be bad for the club because of his one route style of football. Well, I have been proved wrong this season not only because of Bolton's league position, but also with their much better football than ours. I also discovered that Sam's backroom staff are the biggest and arguably the best, with fitness and dietary methods that many premiership managers covet. Just look at the extra shelf life that's been added to Gary Speed, who would have been a great asset to this club had he not been pensioned off by our wise management two seasons ago. However it will be another season of frustration before nice Glenn is sacked, and another two to bed the next man in after he builds up his 'own' team. I'm dead glad I can't afford a season ticket now as it would have been loaned out for most of this season, like my last one under Dalglish, Boy! it seems like a hundred years ago now and we still haven't improved, or won owt. For Newcastle's future read 'Leeds United'

Posted by: ron lambert  | April 2, 2007 5:21 PM

paul hill wrote...

anger ,dismay ,contempt ,pity, resentment, words to aim at our manager and chairman. Something has to be done to get the message across before another summer or shall i i fork out another £600 on absolute dross both on and off the pitch.
Mr Shepherd do the right thing you know that your credibility with the fans is at an all time low so get a top draw manager in and not put your money with a loser as that is all roeder is.

Posted by: paul hill  | April 3, 2007 6:03 AM

Rob -- Baku Azerbaijan wrote...

Seems FS does not tire of giving out more lies and deceit in order to take the heat off for a few months, wanting to spend millions on expanding an already emptying stadia, instead why not spend all the cash on the team and bring in the much needed talented coach and class players, and only those who want and have the desire to want to play for the toon. Then and only then should FS put forward his plan for extention. So come on Freddy no more of this rubbish from you and Roeder, get it right now or we will be playing next season in the Championship, all this talk from GR about Europe, he must mean his coming holidays. It is time for honesty and integrity, GR needs to go or placed back in charge of the kids, you need to sort out whether you want to sell the club or not, the backroom staff and some of the dross we have who call themselves players need moving on. People are now getting fed up and quite a few i know will not be renewing next season, you may ask yourself why?
Just think about it Freddy, it is quite easy to work out.

Posted by: Rob -- Baku Azerbaijan  | April 3, 2007 8:45 AM

Bobby T wrote...

What more can you say about NUFC. Just when we've seen yet another dreadful gut wrenching display from players earning more in a week than I do in a year and seemingly beyond motivation, we get the chairman shouting on about "Dont worry we'll soon have a 60,000 seater stadium".Does this man or his advisors have any idea about what's happening at SJP.The last thing we want to hear about is increased capacity -- that's what you hear from successful teams. If the posts on here or on the ic Newcastle message board are anything to go by, we'll be very lucky to see 40000 crowds next season, make that 25000 if we end up in the c'ship which btw is still a very live possibility.It seems almost everyone can see what's wrong & GR aint gonna be the the one to fix it.His team selections/ subs are an insult to the "vocal minority" as he calls us. Wake up Glenn and smell the coffee -- you've not only lost the dressing room but also the huge majority of the fan base, many of whom have given you enough time to see if you could make a difference. When you leave please try and persuade FS to go with you.

Posted by: Bobby T  | April 3, 2007 10:01 AM

Gerry Hagon wrote...

If the intention of Roeder is to build a team at Newcastle to compete at the top level of the Premiership:-

1. Why does he have to say this? I should have thought that this was the intention of anyone managing a Premiership team.

2. Why are we talking about wholesale selling of players? Your article this morning in The Journal lists the following:-
Definite leavers in Moore, Babayaro, Carr, Bramble and Oguchi. Possible leavers in Parker, Emre, Dyer and Duff. Add on a few more just not good enough and we do not have anyone left apart from Owen (will he stay?), Milner and NZogbia both of whom may well be attracted by a move away.

This does not look like a team building for the future and attracting 60,000 spectators as well as competing for honours in the Premiership. This looks like a team looking in the opposite direction.

Posted by: Gerry Hagon  | April 3, 2007 10:10 AM

Andy Rivers wrote...

Call me cynical but, revealing stadium expansion plans and all the paraphernalia that went with it just as a groundswell of anti shepherd feeling was set to explode could certainly be called a deflective tactic. This will doubtless be used in conjunction with the, now annual, PR exercise which links us with every player in order to sell season tickets. Personally, I'm still waiting to be 'pleasantly surprised' from when we sold Woodgate. SHEPHERD OUT.

Posted by: Andy Rivers  | April 3, 2007 10:55 AM

Luke wrote...

Good responses and some very interesting points. I just think, it is all well and good talking aboutthe players you want to sign and about strengthening the squad in the summer, but as things stand, there is no guarantee that any of the players who the club want to keep want to stay.

Posted by: Luke  | April 3, 2007 11:16 AM

Paul Wait wrote...

It's going to be difficult to see just how Glenn Roeder is going to strengthen the team if he is still in the job at the end of the season. Even if I was a half decent player myself, I would not want to play under him as he is totally out of his depth. Also, as the club appears to be in a mess from top to bottom, joining it would not be high on my list of priorites.

Posted by: Paul Wait  | April 3, 2007 12:35 PM

Andrew S - Australia wrote...

We're going to have to pay over the odds for any decent player to come to nufc - call it a 'fishbowl' fee for the constant barrage of criticism they'll receive from the fans and their buck passing manager. Couple that with the observation that at least 5 top players have had their careers put on hold by a club and management team that has failed to inspire or motivate. Who’d want to be the next Albert? Invest your money in a top tactician and motivator to drag the best out of ‘could be’s’ like Bramble et. al. next season and create an attractive and positive environment to attract the next generation. Someone like Guus Hiddink. Who doesn’t feel this is inevitable? Let’s do it now before we have to search for another Owen and N’Zogbia after their transfer requests after another bottom half of the table effort next season.

Posted by: Andrew S - Australia  | April 3, 2007 12:51 PM

Michael wrote...

How i feel for newcastle supporters at he minute. I am a long standing sunderland supporter who has lived outside of the north east for several years. During all my years as a season ticket holder I have never been as frustrated and let down by my club as last season coupled with what can only be described as an outstanding finish to last season by NUFC I was sick of football come the summer and was destrought and depressed at the thought of what was going to happen at both our great clubs expecting newcastles further progress and out further demise. Speaking to friends who are season ticket holders at NUFC that they say this season because of the abject preformances by the players coupled with the expectation due to the finish of last year has left a bitter taste in there mouths that my friends have not felt before felt before. Take it from one who knows the anguish at a club in turmoil, I advise the clubs fans to stand up and be counted and if you really are stagnating force changes at your club if it be management or chairman before the rot stops, meanwhile as I am a sundeland fan although promotion isn't garenteed yet i'm licking my lips at the prospect of next season as sunderland are on an upward curve that in my opinion has better foundations than the "glory" years under reid, while newcastle appear to have gone full circle from last year.

Posted by: Michael  | April 3, 2007 1:46 PM

Commulus wrote...

I wonder if you can clarify a couple of points concerning this proposed construction at St. James.

Is it actually part of Newcastle United PLC or is it a separate and private (Shepherd) venture?

Will it contribute anything towards the clubs finances, or not?

Note From Luke

As I understand it - and I don't really! - is that it's being funded by outside money, whatever that means. I assume the club will make money, possibly from sale of land and then a slice of the money for luxury apartments. But I'm speculating here. Of course, they will hope to make more money when stadium is expanded, although this is phase two of development and planning permission request has not been submitted for this stage of the development

Posted by: Commulus  | April 3, 2007 1:59 PM

Commulus wrote...

I think you may call me cynical, the club own some of that land but not all of it!

Shepherd is dangling the carrot of the phase 2 development (Gallowgate Extension) in front of the local authorities in order to gain approval and sell off and develop land privately (phase 1).

The St. James and Leazes End Land is only Leasehold, I think! The club owns the (Gallowgate) Metro site and possibly the Pitt Street (Barrack) car park, there might be more to this than meets the eye!

Note From Luke
It's one theory I suppose. I just think the whole thing sounds a little ridculous. But if you want to get rid of a story, create another one

Posted by: Commulus  | April 3, 2007 4:38 PM

Commulus wrote...

...you suggesting it's a lot less than meets the eye?

A Castle in the air!

Posted by: Commulus  | April 3, 2007 5:58 PM

Anonymous wrote...

I would like to see Big Sam Allardyce in place as manager by the end of the season. For me, the performance in Holland was the last straw for Roader. And now he is sounding just like Souness - playes not performing, get rid blah blah blah. Sam has consistantly over achieved at Bolton with limited funds and like the blog above, the backroom set up he has created there has to be one of the most professional in the Prem. And he would jump at the chance to manage us.

Posted by: Anonymous  | April 4, 2007 2:47 AM

Kid A wrote...

Personally, I am behind Roeder, and this is why:

We've had a sucession of poor managers hiding behind big names. I think, for once, we have a decent manager hiding behind a poor name. I think Roeder's "big talking" is primarily a way of trying to get people to take him seriously - I think he will struggle with this stigma for a while.

Sheperd showed some footballing acumen (for once) in giving Roeder a 2 year contract. There has been a lot of misplaced optimism about Newcastle - for example the immediately 5 year contract for Graeme Souness; a mistake considering that he was succeeding the very successful Bobby Robson. I think Roeder deserves his two years if the club is not relegated.

The fact is Newcastle have added and added and added to a bloated and overpaid squad has not worked. We've consistently bought for high prices and sold for low prices over the last five years, always thinking "this is the last piece of the jigsaw." Certainly, when you array our squad in all its glory, it looks like an extremely able one. However, there is no team function about it. There wasn't much team function about Bobby Robson's squad but it had four people in it - Shearer, Given, Robert and Solano who felt like they were dead certs for the line up. Newcastle played wide and fast, and it bought success. The next team doesn't have to have that same ethos, but it needs an ethos of sorts. Naturally, you can say what you like about Robert, but the fact is he was built into an effective team structure.

What Roeder needs to do is work out how he wants his team to play, rather than buying more (talented) players and trying to fit them into a haphazard mould which, atm, relies on "hopefully one of our players explode."

In this sense, Graeme Souness was right, he said "Parker, you are Makelele for this team" and that was that. It wasn't successful, but it worked in a sense that Parker carved a Niche for himself and the team had a plan. Now, I felt Souness was an awful mistake, but I had to give him that.

Newcastle need more tactical acumen, for too long we have relied on lucky/virtuso goals and we need a head on the talented shoulders of this team. I "think" Glenn Roeder can provide that.

In many ways Newcastle is similar to England. There ARE good players here, but no tactical motif or basis for play.

When he buys players, he should not buy players who are "motivated" or "skilled", he should buy players to fit roles for a vision, something that hasn't been done since the early years of Bobby Robson's tenure, and then build from there.

Get defense, change it wholesale, make sure it's solid and knows what it wants to do. Then get an Ethos together, and hopefully Newcastle can start fulfilling that potential. I want to give Roeder another year, I hope he has it.

Posted by: Kid A  | April 4, 2007 1:49 PM

Tom wrote...

I dont understand Kid A's comments - he wants to stick with Roeder then goes on to point out how poor he is...

Posted by: Tom  | April 4, 2007 11:44 PM

sally wade wrote...

I don't understand why everyone is still blaming Bramble for getting knocked out of Europe... (easy scapegoat)How many games have they won since he got dropped??? In my opinion Taylor makes just as many or more mistakes then him, yet nobody wants to pick up on this.

Posted by: sally wade  | April 15, 2007 10:06 AM

Kevin wrote...

Just another example of how stupid our chairman thinks the supporters are. We're doing badly, so let's leak a positive story about how ambitious he is? What a joke, just like NUFC

Posted by: Kevin  | April 18, 2007 11:03 AM

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