Grab my RSS feed | (What's this?)

About this Blog

Luke Edwards is Chief Sports Writer of The Journal and uses his blog to give a unique and entertaining insight into events at Newcastle United and Sunderland.

As well as football, Luke also regularly takes a wry look at the biggest sports stories from across the North-East and beyond. From cricket to rugby and basketball to boxing, some are criticised and some are praised.

Sometimes provocative, sometimes laugh-aloud funny, but always interesting Luke Who's Talking also gives you the chance to interact with Luke and have your say on all the major sporting issues.

Recent comments

Recent Posts

Sponsored links

Archives

Links

Sponsored links


Scott Parker Was One Of The Good Guys

Posted by Luke on June 3, 2007 12:09 PM | 

So Titus Bramble's sufferance for not having his contract renewed at Newcastle is a £40,000-a-week deal at Wigan Athletic and Scott Parker's failure to get on with sections of the club's supporters will lead to an even more lucrative move to West Ham. Life goes on eh lads!

While we have known about Bramble's departure for a while, the imminent sale of Parker is a more shocking development and I, for one, will be sorry to see him leave.

No, it doesn't have anything to do with the fact we're both from London and could share stories over a plate of warm lager and jellied eels while listening to Chas and Dave CDs, it's more to do with the fact that I thought Scottie was a good player and a good person to boot.

I never understood why some fans turned against him last season, although I believe it had something to do with the fact that he told a few to go away - except with a four letter word beginning with F - during the humbling 1-0 home defeat to Sheffield United back in November.

Personally, and you might disagree, but if I was getting a load of stick from my own supporters as things fell apart around me on the pitch, I'd be tempted to do the same. (Audible gasp of shock from stunned readers incensed by suggestion players don't just have to "take it" because they earn millions of pounds each year).

Look, the players have to take a huge slice of the blame for what happened at Newcastle last season and several of them were a disgrace to themselves, the club, their parents, their pets etc..etc.. for the lack of effort they showed, but Parker was not one of them.

Ok, so he didn't always play at his best - certainly not when compared to his excellent first season - but he could never be faulted for application and effort. Okay, so maybe Nicky Butt was better in the defensive midfielder position, but did that mean Parker deserved to be given the same treatment as Celestine Babayaro? Okay, so he sometimes held on to the ball too long and slowed down quick attacks, but did that mean he deserved to be booed and jeered? I think, if you're honest, you'd say no.

As for all those who constantly cheer and chant for Obafemi Martins, his lack of form, application and commitment were shocking towards the end of the season, yet Parker is still more unpopular in the eyes of many supporters. You pays your money, you makes your choice I guess, but I don't get it.

I suppose it was all born out of the frustration of another season of failure, broken promises, failed ambition and all that jazz, but still, I think Parker was one of the good guys really. Hopefully next season - presuming Fred does the honourable thing and sells his shares - there will be a more United - get it - mood at St James's Park.

So Scottie, it seems your time is up on Tyneside. Farewell and good luck, hope the return to London goes well. Mind you, if you thought Newcastle's supporters were a little harsh in their criticism of their own players, wait until you hear West Ham's, the miserable, whining bunch of ...........

TrackBack

TrackBack<$MTEntryTrackbackLink$>>

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference <$MTEntryTitle$>:

">

» <$MTPingTitle$> from <$MTPingBlogName$>
<$MTPingExcerpt$> [Read More]

Tracked on <$MTPingDate$>

Comments (29)

Chris wrote...

I agree with you 100% with respect to Scott Parker. I think the club will be a poorer place without him. As far as I could see (from afar) he always ran himself into the ground for the team.

Posted by: Chris  | June 4, 2007 9:18 AM

shaun wrote...

he was a southern softie

Posted by: shaun  | June 4, 2007 10:25 AM

shane wrote...

i'm gutted, replacing parker with barton when everyone talks about how important character is these days. i hope something freak happens n scotty doesn't go anywhere.

Posted by: shane  | June 4, 2007 10:35 AM

John wrote...

its a complete disaster, letting our captain leave, and bringing in, well a thug, shephard backed souness getting rid of trouble, like bellamy, now we are getting someone worse, what does that say to Owen, selling our best players, its a mistake

Posted by: John  | June 4, 2007 10:56 AM

Shaggy wrote...

I live in notts, and im a notts county supporter, but ive always had a love of newcastle as well, possibly with us both being magpies. But im glad you agree with me about parker, he always gave everything in every match, even when everything was falling apart, and i think without him we would have done much worse. I was gutted to hear he was leaving, and i reckon if the deal does go through, we will regret letting him go by them end of next season. And i dunno what anyone else thinks, but i dont think barton compares to parker, so i dont think hes as good a replacement as we could find, especially as we will have some more money when the take over goes through. I think a good player for newcastle would be someone like the belgian Vanden Borre, or Phil Jagielka both young quality defenders. For centre mid, if parker goes, id like to see Nolan come in, because i reckon with allardyce in charge, hed be abit easier to sign if we could get Bolton to part with him.

Posted by: Shaggy  | June 4, 2007 11:18 AM

True Mag wrote...

I hate to say it but Newcastle fans were disgraceful in their treatment of Scott Parker. I can't believe some had actually started to boo his name before games while cheering for Obafemi Martins who clearly couldn't care less about the club.

I'm with you Luke so best wishes to Scott. I just hope the deal collapses at the last minute.

Posted by: True Mag  | June 4, 2007 11:56 AM

Little Lord Fauntleroy wrote...

I didn't know you could get plates of warm lager....?

As for Parker, I'm glad he's leaving. We don't stand for players turning against their own fans because he thinks our 'expectations are too unrealistic'. We want players who'll put their life on the line for the team and Scott Parker just didn't give us that passion. Undoutable talent but it's good business to sell him. The best replacement may well be Joey Barton. Complete idiot but what a player!!

I have to agree with you about Martins though Luke. He's lazy and looked very poor towards the end of the seaon. I can't see him and Owen playing together so I would rather get rid of him.
He's quick and scored 17 goals but he can't head a ball and his 1st touch is reminiscent of a brick wall. If any clubs want to bid for him, thats extra money in the kitty while the projected boardroom unrest rumbles on....

Posted by: Little Lord Fauntleroy  | June 4, 2007 11:59 AM

Martin wrote...

I totally agree with you Luke! Scottie doesn't deserve the stick he is getting, he was one off the only one's who put in a few proper tackles and I also think United means something to him! So please Scottie stay, we don't want that disgrace Barton! As For Fat Freddie, please don't put up a fight.. jus sell!!!!!

Posted by: Martin  | June 4, 2007 12:02 PM

Dave C wrote...

I have always liked Scott Parker, true last season was not his best. However, that could be said for many of the Toons supposed stars.

Whether Scottie stays or goes I wish him the best, however, this is the managers call and if BS thinks he can handle Barton then I say fine lets give him a try.

We have to start life with BS trusting his instincts and not doubting or second guessing everything he does. To my mind he has proved he can handle "difficult" players and get the best from them. So lets see just how good Joey Barton can be in a Black & White shirt, lets face it, most of us have been young and daft at some time in our lives.

Lets give the lad a chance to prove himself and not assume that he will not mend his ways once he is at a new club.

Whatever happens, we should support the manager and the players next season and not condem players out of hand just because they come with a bad reputation.

Come on the Toon!

Posted by: Dave C  | June 4, 2007 12:25 PM

Brian Jackson wrote...

I am sorry to see him go as I believe he represented the good side of professional football cos to my knowledge he was a gentleman off the field who was a good role model with no antics which brought our club into disrepute ( this is as important to me as the on field effort and application)

I didnt appeciate his comments about us having unrealistic expectations though but could accept that these were borne out of frustration on his part.

Because of my previous comments I see the signing of Barton as sad move as whilst i believe he is a better player than Scottie , I think his off field antics make him a poor signing.

I must expect too much because I wan on field commitment with off field exemplary behaviour.

I thank Scottie for all he has done for us and wish him well in the future. I hope this bit of business doesnt not come back and haunt us

Posted by: Brian Jackson  | June 4, 2007 12:49 PM

shaun wrote...

i realy cant belive that so many people cant see how inefective parker is.a midfielder whose shooting is in the same leauge as lee clarks. always giving away free kicks and passes back and sideways. wake up we got good money for a v average player who incidently wont get half the england caps joey barton will. im sure most of you never go to games.

Note From Luke
Does that include me Shaun, who goes to plenty of Newcastle games home and away?
Midfielders shouldn't just be judged on how many goals they score, that is one of the biggest problems with the English mentality and why Frank Lampard is regarded as one of the best in the world only on these shores.
How many goals does Claude Makelele have for Chelsea? One in three seasons. Does that make him a bad midfielder? How about Nicky Butt? Roy Keane wasn't exactly a regular goalscorer either was he? I could go on, but I won't, I'm going to boo you instead Shaun!

Posted by: shaun  | June 4, 2007 1:43 PM

phil wrote...

I totally agree with shaun, by the way who didnt mention anything about goals?! He simply said his shooting was poor, which most people would have to admit is! Luke I agree with your comments about makelele, keane etc and the fact that lampard is very overrated(i assume that was what you meant) However parker is not even close to being in the mould of those defensive midfielders you mentioned! Those that like him do for the fact that he gives his all, runs practically all game and is good in a tackle.(fair enough) However his inability to read the game and the fact that he is so eager to win a tackle that he leaves the man he is suppposed to be marking drop us in it! He seems like a good guy, didnt deserve the flak he got and I would like to see more players at newcastle show the determination and heart that he has for newcastle quite often (i.e when he played through that illness at the back end of last season!) However technically he is not good enough, (i.e reading a game, marking, creativity.) It is therefore hard to define what he brings to the team, certainly nothing in attack (doesnt score or create many goals) and not in defence (as previously mentioned leaves his man and regularly caught out of position!?)

Note From Luke
Take your points Phil, but I just think Scott was trying too hard in a poor side last season, which is hardly a crime. If he is given strict instructions - something I feel Glenn Roeder was incapable of doing with any player - he would be excellent as a defensive midfielder.
Oh well, looks like he's gone now anyway...

Posted by: phil  | June 4, 2007 4:58 PM

Tom wrote...

I would pesonally prefer to se the departure of Dyer for the arrival of Barton

Posted by: Tom  | June 5, 2007 12:06 AM

RAY WILSON wrote...

Luke. Most of us did like Scotty Parker,but I also think most of us were baffeled by his roll in the team. He like Kieron Dyer has been hard to analyse in terms of effective play. First Dyer -- er what is he? He cant head a ball,he cant win a tackle,I cant remember any terrific passes which could take a couple of defenders out,like Terry Hibbert,Tony Green,Tommy Craig,or Jinky could do. He cant score goals--- so is it just me or does he do other magic cos I have not seen any,what I did see from dyer was a hands on hips,lazy attitude than won us nothing in midfield. Regarding Scotty ,great guy,good honest professional,proud captain,but never shined under Roeder in fact he looked like a lot of other players under Roeder who did not seem to understand what was been asked of them so its not surprising he looked slightly less than average. All I know is this was not the Parker who left Charlton some time ago when he was much wanted by many clubs and for good reason at the time as his form was excellent. I do think Sam would have got far more out of Scottie than Roeder ever could but it now looks like we may never know. Regards.

Posted by: RAY WILSON  | June 5, 2007 12:37 AM

Phil wrote...

How stories change over time, Scott Parker was not being booed until after he told the fans to f off. He had basically bottled a challenge and the fans groaned and shouted at him which is when he said that.

It seems that when he injured the player in his first season he just seemed to lose alot of his game, he would bottle challenges in his second season at the club and just didn't seem to have the same bite about him which with the way he plays he very important.

All round I think it's best for both the player and the club that he left, whether Barton is the right replacement is another matter but I'm sure Sam can sort him out.

Posted by: Phil  | June 5, 2007 9:54 AM

Craig wrote...

Scott Parker always confused me last season, and it appears he had the same scenario at Charlton in the respect that he always looks like a good player in a bad team. Hardly his fault but the majority of good results last season where when he wasnt in the team. I personally would have struggled to drop him as he always did give his all but it isnt about individual performance, and the the side had better shape without him. I hadnt considered the "trying too hard" concept. Maybe you are right. But over the years it has happened a lot, once the fans decide a player isnt the right player he has no chance. I remember Neil MacDonald getting abuse irrespective of what he did, Scott is best off out of it and he is replacable so not the end of the world. And with regards to Martins, I find if hard to blame a young guy in a new country and different culture from starting to seem disillusioned towards the end of the season. The Roeder criticism for him not getting another goal in the home game against AZ obviously affected him. He will be top scorer in Prem League next season if here.

Note From Luke
Craig are you the devil? I'm sure you're not, but your comment was the 666th to have been left on this site this year! Eerie don't you think!

Posted by: Craig  | June 5, 2007 10:09 AM

Nattrass wrote...

Lads you've got it all wrong about Scotty. He wants to go to London to familiarise himself with the surroundings. Come 2012 he will be joining the Chinese Gymnastic team. He spends that much time flinging himself around the floor he would be a cert for Gold. Good luck Scotty hope you get 1st place on the podium.

Posted by: Nattrass  | June 5, 2007 1:03 PM

Gareth wrote...

Parker's commitment & desire were never realy in question. Although his parting comments seem a tad petulant. His problem is that he pays no attention to his task of protecting the back four in his perpetual chase after the ball. It is like watching a five year old in the back garden. He can run all day but his passing, control & vision are virtually non-existant. As for him being a good man, i know plenty of top notch blokes who cant play football either.

Posted by: Gareth  | June 5, 2007 4:06 PM

terry paddison wrote...

I think the view that Scott Parker was unpopular with the fans is greatly overstated but unfortunately it will stick because it is being said loudly enough in the press. Scott never fully re found the best form of his career which was when he was at Charlton but for a year and half he gave everything he had at a club which as we know is always in turmoil. From Christmas he has not been so committed and it has shown in his performances.The fact that his family never came with him fulltime from London tells us that he never saw this as a long term move. I believe Barton will achieve more over time but do not support the other popular myth that Nicky Butt was magnificent last season, he was better than in his pre Birmingham spell but is nowhere near the player he was when attracting praise from Pele in the 2002 world cup.

Posted by: terry paddison  | June 5, 2007 4:33 PM

Stephen Davison wrote...

If youre reading this Scott,I hope you don`t go.As far as i could see your heart was always on your sleeve.Fight and stay,Id love you to shove the words back down their throats and make them eat humble pie.
The true fans love ya!

Posted by: Stephen Davison  | June 5, 2007 6:06 PM

Philip Scott wrote...

I agree that Scotty was a good player but one of the problems with NUFC is that we do not break forward quickly enough - we lack creativity and have too many combative midfield players. I am a season ticket holder at Newcastle but work in Cheshire during the week and attend mid week City games. Barton is brilliant, he is City's best player by a country mile. He breaks quickly and takes players on all the time. Best of all you never ever leave a game and say that Barton did not give 100%. We all know he has a dark side, but if managed properly he will become an absolute hero in the Toon.

Note From Luke
I think you are probably right about Barton Phil, although I would have still liked to have kept Parker as well to add competition for places in the centre of midfield. Butt is getting on a bit now and who knows what sort of injuries Newcastle will get next season. I wouldn't be surprised if Allardyce buys another central midfielder this summer

Posted by: Philip Scott  | June 5, 2007 10:26 PM

iain wrote...

Parker was a good defensive mf player and at best a middle of the road do a job for you attacking cm player and finally he was a poor captain.

If the dressing room had let Roeder down what exactly did parker try and do about it ?
it would seem nothing bar shouting at a few fans, i don't remember him coming out once and defending Roeder, all he could muster was a comment about expectations being too high at NUFC.

I saw some stats today that show how much better a player barton is than parker, not pointless stats about how much ground the players cover but final product that matters....passes, shots, goals.


you could take parker and emre's contribution last season in terms of passes and goals put them together and they still contributed less than barton did at city in a team that could score goals if there lives depended on it.


prem stats -


barton - 29 shots on target, 6 goals, 4 assists (remember city's strikers are useless), 69 key passes.

parker - 15 shots on target, 3 goals, 1 assist, 17 key passes.


emre - 6 shots on target, 2 goals, 2 assists, 36 key passes.

for the 7/8m we will get for parker i think sam beleives he can get two players that can fill our cm, barton as the attacking cm and this ghanian international boateng we have been linked with as a defensive cm.

Posted by: iain  | June 6, 2007 9:24 AM

Archie Brand wrote...

It just goes to show how subjective the whole "being a supporter" thing is.
Parker is class.
He started to get booed after he pulled out of a tackle. At the time we were 10 players down due to injury and he'd limped off the previous week.
So obviously a bit wary he pulled out of a tackle that most of the team wouldn't have even turned up for.
Fans can be such tossers at times.
As for the fans' comments -if you didn't like Parker telling you where to go I cant see Barton lasting long.

Posted by: Archie Brand  | June 6, 2007 10:37 AM

Rod wrote...

Parker had a good 1st season and a very poor 2nd season. Parker DID NOT get booed by the fans until AFTER he abused some of our fans. Martins is a STRIKER, and strikers score goals,simple really.

Note From Luke
How many goals did Martins score after the Alkmaar game at home? In other words, how many did he score when he had given up trying?. Whether you like it or not Rod, Oba isn't popular in the dressing room because he doesn't try in training or matches. There is also the feeling that he doesn't even want to be at the club.
He can perhaps be excused for his lack of application at the end of last season because he was playing in a poor side which knew they had little to play for other than pride. But he will have to improve his attitude next season

Posted by: Rod  | June 6, 2007 11:33 AM

iain wrote...

Luke you mention in your reply to Rod that Martins isnt liked becuase he doesn't try in training.

Dont you think this is type of stuff us as fans might like to know about ?

How can you expect fans to form proper and fair opinions if you in the local media hold back on information like the above snippet.

Thats the first i have ever heard about Oba not being liked and not training well
and if true it certainly changes my opinon of him.

Although it begs the question if martins isnt liked for that and can yet still do the businnes for the majority of the season in scoring goals, how on earth dyer isnt the most hated man in the nufc changing room as his lack of effort at times on the pitch has been worse than obas.

Note From Luke
I only became aware of it when Nicky Butt and Shay Given both hammered him and Charles N'Zogbia after the 1-1 draw at Watford on the last day of the season. There comments have also been backed up by the likes of Steve Harper since. All the quotes were carried in The Journal. Maybe disliked is a bit strong, but they were all highly critical of his attitude and application. I would have thought you'd have realised that when you read the stories.

Posted by: iain  | June 6, 2007 2:02 PM

Dave (Gosforth) wrote...

Look at the Opta index. Parker top of the list for tackles attempted and won - yet apparently he had a bad season?! We have replaced him with a second Lee Bowyer - nothing but a thug - and still have far inferior players on the books (Dyer, Emre, Butt). It's a total mess, but I will let you all worry about it, I will not be renewing my season ticket to watch a team full of 'big signings' from low/mid table clubs!

Posted by: Dave (Gosforth)  | June 6, 2007 5:29 PM

Steinar Ranheim wrote...

Yes, totally agree with you on Parker. Now it's Given for captain : - )

Posted by: Steinar Ranheim  | June 7, 2007 11:22 AM

Hugh Gallagher wrote...

Scott Parker couldn't play - simple as. He spent more time on his backside or running around in circles than being creative. A good guy who gave his all, yes, but he simply wasn't good enough.

Posted by: Hugh Gallagher  | June 7, 2007 9:05 PM

Tim B wrote...

Just an observation, and not totally related to this particular article, but there are an awful lot of 'recommended signings' flying about whose sole basis seems to be people playing Football Manager! It's not real people...it's a game.

How many Anderlecht games has John watched recently to recommend Anthony Vanden Borre so highly?! Just one example, but he's not the only one.

Posted by: Tim B  | June 21, 2007 2:29 PM

Post a comment

(If you haven't left a comment here before, you may need to be approved by the site owner before your comment will appear. Until then, it won't appear on the entry. Thanks for waiting.)