Grab my RSS feed | (What's this?)

About this Blog

Luke Edwards is Chief Sports Writer of The Journal and uses his blog to give a unique and entertaining insight into events at Newcastle United and Sunderland.

As well as football, Luke also regularly takes a wry look at the biggest sports stories from across the North-East and beyond. From cricket to rugby and basketball to boxing, some are criticised and some are praised.

Sometimes provocative, sometimes laugh-aloud funny, but always interesting Luke Who's Talking also gives you the chance to interact with Luke and have your say on all the major sporting issues.

Recent comments

Recent Posts

Sponsored links

Archives

Links

Sponsored links


Club Or Country?

Posted by Luke on September 6, 2007 1:47 PM | 

It is every youngster’s dream to play for their country, to wear the national colours with pride and represent the nation in sporting battle, so why has the England football team become an inconvenience, an after-thought, an unwanted distraction which has sadly become a source of embarrassment rather than pride.

Has the Premier League become so important and the riches of the Champions League so enchanting that international football is nothing more than a disruption in an already crowded season?

A friend of mine once said that he couldn’t care less if England won or lost as long as Newcastle United were doing well. I suspect it is a sentiment that is shared by many other football fans, particularly in the Premier League.

It has been argued in the past that the majority of those who avidly follow the fortunes of the national team hail from small town clubs who will never compete for the club game’s major prizes. This may well be the case.

If I had to choose between seeing Leyton Orient in the Premiership or seeing England win the World Cup, I’d probably say England and the World Cup. Not that I wouldn’t love to see Orient beating Newcastle at St James’s Park or dishing out a thrashing to Sunderland at Brisbane Road, but because for me, the World Cup is football’s ultimate prize and it would be an achievement the whole country could celebrate. It would be an unofficial Bank Holiday, but without the needless trip to Whitley Bay!

I’m not a chest-thumping patriot, I don’t fly a St George’s flag from my bedroom window, I don’t have any bulldog tattoos on my arms, I don’t have any tacky china plates with a picture of Diana and Charles’ wedding and I didn’t cry when the Queen’s Mum popped her clogs. In fact, I don’t even know the words to the national anthem, but I am incredibly passionate about watching England play football.

I think a lot of people share that passion, but there is also a growing sense the clubs are more important, that the Premier League is where the excitement is and that the Champions League is where the best players are. In some ways that argument carriers some weight given the strength of some of the squads in the Champions League, but there is still nothing quite like the excitement of a major international tournament for me.

There is still outrage when the national team performs badly and results are poor, but I have some sympathy for Steve McClaren (wow did I just say that) when he operates in an environment where tired and mentally drained players turn up for international duty to go through the motions because they are more worried about a Champions League group game the following week, or that vital trip to Wigan!

And then you have the clubs who surreptitiously (or in some cases blatantly) exert pressure on their players to put club before country. They have a case considering the vast sums of money they pay their pampered (and often over-rated) stars, but that should not get in the way of the dream every player must have had when they used to kick the ball around the park as a kid - playing for England. Not everything is about money, or at least it shouldn’t be.

Take Steven Gerrard’s situation this week. I make no secret of the fact that, for me, Gerrard is the best player in the country, a player who not only thrills with what he can do with a football at his feet, but who also inspires those around him simply with his presence. He is a leader of men in character and content, it’s just a shame he plays for Liverpool, a team I dislike more than most.

Anyway, Liverpool’s manager Rafael Benitez has insisted Gerrard should not play against Israel because he will need a painkilling injection to do so because of a broken toe, which comes with risks. He is naturally looking out for Liverpool’s interests, but he asked Gerrard to play against Chelsea last month with exactly the same sort of injection and he didn’t worry too much about the risks then!

Gerrard has sensibly kept his own counsel on the matter, but those who know the scouser know he is fiercely proud of playing for his country and that he is desperate to play at the weekend. Benitez, though, is exerting enough direct and indirect pressure to make the player feel as though he is letting his club down if he does so. That isn’t right, the decision should be the player’s, not the manager’s when it comes to something like this.

For what it’s worth, I reckon Gerrard will play for England because he knows how important the games are for his country. I admire him for that and, if he picks up an injury and misses a few games for Liverpool, even better! Only jesting, honest!

TrackBack

TrackBack<$MTEntryTrackbackLink$>>

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference <$MTEntryTitle$>:

">

» <$MTPingTitle$> from <$MTPingBlogName$>
<$MTPingExcerpt$> [Read More]

Tracked on <$MTPingDate$>

Comments (8)

Stevo wrote...

I don't think its fans of big clubs who go club over country, I think its a Northern thing, which the FA did go some way to resolving when they took the England team on the road.

For me, for a long time, especially under Venables, England had a southern bias and I didn't feel like the England team was mine, whereas Liverpool Football club will always be mine.

Also, during the same period, there were too many songs along the lines of 'no surrender to the IRA' which has nothing to do with football whatsoever and I wanted no part of.

There is also an issue re the FA being incompetant which again pulls me away from the team. I'd almost happily see England fail to qualify if it means we hit absolute rock bottom, Mclaren gets the sack and the whole bloody institution takes a long hard look at itself and how it goes about its business.

And while I'm ranting, Brooking wheeling out the 'too many foreigners' excuse is a load of tosh too. Cream rises to the top and its more to do with how we coach the kids to get the cream. Zola made a good point when he argues against the impact the foreign influx was having on English Footballers. He had Maradonna and Carreca ahead of him when he was trying to break into the Napoli team. Didn't do him any harm.

Posted by: Stevo  | September 6, 2007 4:54 PM

True Mag wrote...

I want England to do well, I just get tired of the hype which greets every build up and the over-reaction, win or lose, that follows every game. Now the games are back at Wembley the whole time, England supporters will be overwhelmingly southern again. You'll be alright Luke lol!

Posted by: True Mag  | September 7, 2007 12:04 PM

Ross wrote...

I consider myself moderately patriotic but in terms of the England football team; I couldn't really care less.

They play boring, listless football that is often even painful to watch in front of a crowd of silent-unless-jeering southerners/hooligans... Not really my idea of a good time.

It will always be the case that Northerners put their city before their country.

Oh and Luke: You don't know the words to the national anthem? Come on man, it's just repeating the same four words for the most part!

Note From Luke
I know that bit God Save The Queen...da de da de da de

Posted by: Ross  | September 7, 2007 12:57 PM

Exile wrote...

There was a time when I was over the moon when a Toon player was picked for an England squad - now though, given the persistant lack of achievement, an England manager that could not manage his way out of a wet paper bag, and the tendancy for players to get injured on international duty, causing their parent clubs to suffer as a result, I really would prefer to see England bomb out of the Euro tournament so our internationals can concentrate on sorting out Newcastle, rather than getting injured for months on end for an England team that is unlikely to achieve anything for the forseeable future.

Mclaren is pressuring Gerrard to play because he knows his job is on the line - and does not seem to really care about any potential long term damage that is caused as a result of playing him while injured.

It really would be the last straw as far as I am concerned if Michael Owen ended up injured again as a result of these last qualifiers.

Let the England team die the death, and then rebuild it with a new manager, and without some of the posturing primadonna's that are picked on reputation rather than performance - maybe then the national side will start getting peoples interest back, instead of being a long running joke.

Note From Luke
Agree with you about the primadonnas. Over-paid and over-hyped for the most part

Posted by: Exile  | September 7, 2007 1:12 PM

Paul Patterson wrote...

A few arguments in there Luke!

Firstly club football MUST ALWAYS take priority over international football, if we ever had to get rid of one, it couldn’t be domestic competitions.

I was away in Deutchland in Euro 96 as a youngster with school and the whole atmosphere there and when I arrived home in time for the Germany game was electric and the whole competition was simply unique, but gradually I’ve lost all patience with the national side.

Take the players: They are so overhyped it’s untrue, we have a goalkeeper who shouldnt be picked for his club side, we have a £30m defender who’s no different to a great Championship centre back, we have an overrated left back, who sold his previous club down the Thames for money at another, we don’t actually have a right back do we?? Hollywood comes calling in midfield (Literally) with Camp (Or should I say Brand) Beckham, then theres two of the finest midfielders in the world who can’t play together.

Throw in the fact that we have two under performing wingers, a crock up front and a moron from back-street Liverpool in the side then we really have a ragtag bunch of pompus children in the national game.
Then there is the price, £10 for a programme?? £5 for a burger?? £5 for a pint?? Hang On!!

For the national side to really go forward, two things need to happen, 1- Cap the overseas players (WONT HAPPEN) and 2- Play for the future, ie: dispense with Beckham, Ferdinand, Lampards etc and blood youngsters regardless of results in the short term. (The F.A wouldn’t tolerate that though would they??) But is playing Beckham really worth it, he won’t be around for the next tournament surely?

Also the England Cap?? It’s not worth the hype either, Every lunatic who Sven Goran Eriksson brushed past got one. (Didn’t see Faria Alam or Ulrika Jonsson play for England though!!)

An ex Newcastle player (Gavin Peacock) stated on Match of the Day last Saturday that the national side must take priority over club football, well Gavin, not in my lifetime.

In days gone by the likes of Terry Butcher, Stuart Pearce, Alan Shearer, Tony Adams and their ilk, DESERVED the call up and it was a genuine pleasure to see them bust a gut for their country, but those days are LONG gone, Steven Gerrard should not play tomorrow, ITS BLOODY ISRAEL FOR HEAVENS SAKE!! Steve McClaren should have called up Kevin Nolan.

My national side (For what it’s worth) would be: Green, Richards, Taylor, Terry, Downing, Nolan, Milner, Lennon, Rooney and Defoe, built for the future, play them regardless, but I couldn’t really give a stuff anymore.

Like you say Luke, Newcastle is my priority, I’ll be locked up in the Tower by lunchtime!!

Note From Luke
I hope you managed to enjoy your weekend even if you were locked in a tower on Saturday evening. I'mm comment more on England game on Monday, but at least it was a better performance and result. Totally agree with you about over-hyped players and the fact that friendlies are too often used to give the same old players another cap. However, given the way SWP played against Israel it is hard to see Beckham getting back into the side.

Posted by: Paul Patterson  | September 7, 2007 5:50 PM

Paul Patterson wrote...

Now Luke, you can't tell me that the second Lord Beckham is fit he won't be straight back in??

Heskey played well and he will be ditched at a moments notice, despite his glowing rapport with Owen.

Wright Phillips was a revelation on the wing and showed his early (Pre-Chelski) promise. The only downside is to see and hear that prat of a caged animal Ian Wright waffle on about his son (When the others in the studio are talking he turns his back and looks out at the empty stadium)

My tower comment was purely based on the premise that many people would class my comments as a form of treason (How dare he disregard his national side!! Chuck him in the Tower of London!! Off with his head!!) but I don't care, like I pointed out, it's not like I could afford to see these primadonnas that I despise, play at Wembley.

It's not that the games are worth it anyway (£50 just for a ticket to see a friendly against Ze Germans, Really??)

On the plus side it was a good performance and Steve "Magnificent" Mclaren survives again.

The Russia game will be different and I think England will win that one, but I don't hold any hope of England getting past the usual Quarter Final stage of the actual competition.

Assuming they still qualify....

Paul.

Posted by: Paul Patterson  | September 9, 2007 6:11 PM

M. Green wrote...

20 years ago World Cup football was the best quality football you could see. Attacking football was common and the smaller nations tried their luck.
Local football was at a much lower standard.

Now the success of the premiership means that we, in England, see higher quality and more exciting football every week in the premiership.
At the same time international football is in a lull. The Italy team that won last year were probably the worst or at best, the least exciting I have ever seen win a world cup.

I think now that after seeing the skills in the premiership we expect England to cruise through to the final every tournament, even though we have only ever done it once and then on home soil.

The truth is that much of the success at home is from players from other countries.

We also pay the price for a long club campaign and players with little stamina as Gerard & Beckham have never done themselves justice at the 'business' end of the tournament.

It may be time to add to our squad some of our harder working, fitter, underplayed players who are better up for the fight at the expense for some of our most illustrious 'stars'?

Posted by: M. Green  | September 10, 2007 2:51 PM

Bottlodog wrote...

I consider myself very fortunate - my club and national team are one and the same !!!! Geardie first and last - I really don't give a toss about England as I have a real problem with the concept of 'Englishness' - England ends 'round about Leeming and Scotland doesn't start 'til Berwick - just look at the road network!!!! So what does that make us - a nation unto ourselves

Note From Luke
Ah the old Geordie Nation angle, nice touch, although wasn't this part of the world once Scottish? As for the road network, don't get me started. Too late, you already have.
How on earth can the North-West have every town linked by a motorway right up to Glasgow and down to Birmingham, but how can Newcastle, the first major city in the North of England have dual carriageway to Leeds and single carriageway to the capital of Scotland, Edinburgh. It's a disgrace and a symbol of the neglect this region has suffered from small-minded idiots in parlimaent. Where are our MPs when you need them! It's time for Independence, although quite what will do for the road infrastructure I don't know...

Posted by: Bottlodog  | September 11, 2007 11:40 AM

Post a comment

(If you haven't left a comment here before, you may need to be approved by the site owner before your comment will appear. Until then, it won't appear on the entry. Thanks for waiting.)