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It Doesn't Get Much Worse Than This!

Posted by Luke on November 26, 2007 12:35 PM | 

I have a confession to make, I have been off work for a week and didn’t even watch Newcastle plunging to a new low against Liverpool on Saturday. I didn’t even watch the highlights on Match of the Day.

I adopted a similar policy to Sunderland’s 7-1 thrashing at the hands of Everton. Why? Because, for one week only, I got away from football. I went home to stay with my parents, did a bit of Christmas shopping, went out drinking, ate well and, well, switched off from work and enjoyed the other things in life for a while.

They say a rest is as good as change and, before any of you start to worry about my mental state, I’d just like to reassure you that I’m back and have plenty to say on the events of the last week. I will not pull any punches either. I might even slip in a couple of low blows!

It’s a bit early in the season to be getting disillusioned, but I couldn’t even raise my normal level of anger as Steve “chump� McClaren and England’s egos - sorry I mean players - embarrassed themselves against Croatia. Yeah, I was irritated, but I couldn’t escape the feeling that they got exactly what they deserved. Steve’s luck ran out, plain and simple and, deep down, I was actually relieved our illusions of grandeur had been shattered.

English football has been exposed as an arrogant fraud. Unfortunately, just like the little boy who pointed out the Emperor was parading through town with no clothes on, we failed to see it, or were too scared to say it, until it was too late.

Which leads me on nicely to Sam Allardyce. As you will know, I’ve advocated the time argument with Newcastle’s manager. I have suggested that there is no point sacking a manager after just six months in the job - of which only three and a half have been competitive football.

But is Big Sam beginning to look like the Emperor with no clothes? Is he so arrogant and self-absorbed he cannot see the glaring deficiencies in the Newcastle team he has constructed and the style of football he wants them to play? Well if he can see them, he certainly doesn’t appear to be having much success in putting them right.

I’ve been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt about tactics, but from what I’ve heard about the Liverpool game, Newcastle didn’t appear to have any tactics. If they did, the Newcastle players didn’t know what they were. That is, to put it bluntly, woeful.

Liverpool are a good side, we know that. They will be one of the four clubs challenging for a Champions League spot at the end of the season. But no shots, no corners....at home...in front of your own supporters...that suggests no clue to me!

Of all the players Sam has signed, have any of them been a success? Are they better than the players they replaced? Joey Barton for Scott Parker? Alan Smith for Kieron Dyer? Cacapa for Titus Bramble? David Rozehnal for Craig Moore? Geremi for Nolberto Solano? Jose Enrique for Paul Huntington? Mark Viduka for.... well, alright, he didn’t really replace anyone, but you know what I mean!

A fair few of you had your issues with some of the above, but how do you feel about them now? I bet you’d like to have three or four of them still available for selection when you have to watch performances as bad as Reading away and Portsmouth at home, let alone the Liverpool game.

Allardyce is under pressure and he is struggling badly to arrest a slump in form which has all the hallmarks of a crisis. He is struggling to come to terms with the football culture on Tyneside and, most worryingly of all, he looks like a manager who is struggling to convey his ideas to his players and, perhaps, to even motivate them in the first place.

Unless that changes soon - I’d say before the busy Christmas period - Big Sam could turn out to be one of the shortest serving Newcastle managers in history! Freddie Shepherd’s final gift to Newcastle United Football Club could have gone from England candidate to laughing stock in six short months.

Yet, I’d still argue that Sam deserves a little longer. His back is against the wall, but this is his acid test. If he can turn things around after this, when the club’s own supporters are openly mocking him, when confidence has hit rock bottom, he will have pulled off something special which, when all is said and done, should be applauded. If he doesn’t, well then it’s bye bye Sam, probably in time for the New Year!

That is not a fate that will be shared by Roy Keane, however. What ever happens at the Stadium of Light this season, whether they cling on to their top flight status by their fingertips, or whether they suffer another immediate return to the Championship, Keane will remain at the helm.

Why? Because Keane has already achieved something by getting them promoted, ahead of schedule, in the first place. He has bought himself time with that and, in just a few months, changed the mood on Wearside from one of disillusionment to optimism.

Not that 7-1 away defeats are not alarming. Sunderland are in the bottom three for a good reason. They do not look good enough, at the present time, to stay up. Whether they can learn quickly, strengthen in January and show they are able to compete at this level, remains to be seen, but this is easily the biggest test of Keane’s managerial career so far.

It was easy in his first year, now we will see how he responds to a far more difficult challenge...

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Comments (17)

Commulus wrote...

Welcome back Luke!

I can’t put a finger on it, but brusque contemplation lends one to surmise that there is probably something wrong somewhere, more than probable really, it's here! Now by Holmes-ian scientific reasoning we can deduct all of those things that we know to be false from the equation, and this should give us the answer to the great question! I’ll start…there is no such thing as Santa Clause he was invented by a Cola Company in the 1930s, and tadpoles don’t turn into butterflies, but they do sometimes turn into squelchy globules of yuk, on country roads … You’re turn…

Note From Luke
I don't know who Santa Clause is, he Claus' brother? Did you know that the vegetable extract in Coca-Cola is Brussel Sprouts and that it was first drunk as a headache cure. Mushrooms are evil, and not just the magic ones. They are also knows as Devil's Spawn.
I had briefly pondered the idea that football was a waste of my time, but then Orient won at Huddersfield to go top of League One again. This instantly restored my faith, while the news we're likely to be given the Olympic Stadium after 2012 has made me believe we can be in the PL by 2015!
Hope is the fuel of life

Posted by: Commulus  | November 26, 2007 2:24 PM

edh1986 wrote...

I'm glad your still suggesting big sam should be allowed more time. Saturday was dreadful, unacceptable, embarrasing, clueless, more like a bad away performance, especially when you live with a liverpool fan...

but all was well enough, best start to a season etc until four games ago against reading which if you ask me is too short a time frame to start calling for managers head. Am I gonna get stick for suggesting that the fans calling for his head need to wake up and realise the managers that have gone the closest to bringing success to tyneside in the last decade and a half were keegan and robson both of which had reasonable periods of time in the job. Robson didn't do much in his first two years and I'm sure had a slumps in form over three or four games in those season. perspective please people!

Note From Luke
I believe what you say is reasonable, but, given the unrest at SJP at the weekend, I'm sure others will feel his position is already untenable. I can't remember a NUFC manager being so unpoular so quickly.

Posted by: edh1986  | November 26, 2007 3:02 PM

Nick wrote...

Hi Luke,

You probably thought my ‘get Alladyce out’ campaign had started to early i.e. the day he was appointed, but I am afraid to say I was right.

OK every new manager needs time, basically time to put their ideas across and stamp it onto the squad. From what we have seen so far he has given us NO indication of anything to look forward to. We are playing with NO width and NO pace, both key factors in winning football matches, as well giving the fans something to get excited about.

They say there are no easy matches in the premiership, but come on lets be honest on paper we have had an easy start. I wish everybody could cast their minds back to every game we have played this season. We haven’t been convincing in any games, it might seem harsh but it’s so true.

I remember writing in when we drew 0-0 with Villa at home, I said this was a sign of things to come. Spurs at home we were ok, but they were poor, as for the other home games if Everton and West Ham took their chances like Pompey did, then well I wont say any more. The away games we have vastly underachieved, Middlesbro, Derby, Reading, Sunderland (all relegation candidates), we have taken 2points from those four games.

Fair enough Liverpool are a top four side (even though we beat them last season), we didn’t even put up a fight (just like against Pompey). After 1nil we were defeated, our attack was toothless. Blame the defence for the loss, or the attack but at the end of the day the team as a whole had no direction, no guile or craft. We were literally lambs to the slaughter.

Another question I ask, is why did he make Geremi captain? He was never going to get in the 1st team every week. Gerimi has completely lost his bottle, he probably isn’t alone but come on you expect your captain to rally the side. Like he should be playing 4-4-2 with wingers the other glaring thing for Alladyce to do was make Nicky Butt captain, but surprise, surprise Alladyce did things his way.

I still 100% believe we have the players that should definitely put this side in the top 6. It is just a matter of a manager putting the right players in the right positions and telling them to do the right things. I can’t believe with only one fit central defender we played an alien 5-3-2.

Alladyce has to go, he is way out of his depth. It doesn’t surprise me that he has lost the dressing room. He still hasn’t learnt that playing like Bolton will not get him anywhere at Newcastle.

I ask the major journalists like yourself to get onto Alladyce through the back or even front pages to get him out, hopefully with all the support of the fans and the media, Mort and Ahsley will sit up and listen. Unless they do we are going no where.

Note From Luke
The last time I had a front page story I was still a news reporter. I will not be starting such a campaign just yet Nick, but if things carry on as they are, rest assured, the pressure will increase from hacks like me.

Posted by: Nick  | November 26, 2007 5:17 PM

James 09 wrote...

Luke – you HAVE to watch the game. I don’t think you’d quite believe it.

Sam Allardyce should be utterly ashamed. Undoubtedly, that’s up there with some of the nightmares under Gullit, Sourness and Roeder’s full season.

Saturday was a tragic embarrassment – we were ridiculed and deservedly so throughout football media. The amount of chances Liverpool had that easily could have been goals was astounding, not to mention the humiliation of not getting a shot on target. Regardless of the batty formation, some of the defending was straight out of the Boumsong, Bramble, Moore (and multiple other specimens that have disgraced Newcastle in the recent past) textbook.

Post-Liverpool Allardyce said: “You know what's right and you know what's wrong and you get it put right.� WHAT!! He can’t be serious right. Simply put, he’s getting so much so very wrong. What’s next – the defence anchored by the midget yet formidable partnership of Charlie and Oba or the lightening strike duo of Carr and Babayaro???
Allardyce went on: “I have never quite found myself in this predicament before.� But Sam on a number of occasions you’ve said Newcastle’s pressure is like anywhere else. The penny’s finally dropped aye.

Saturday MUST be put in its wider context. Although arguably the worst performance and set of tactics (formation, player selection, and mentality) so far, Saturday was not a complete aberration. Far from it. We’ve been AWFUL in far too many matches – Derby, Reading, and Portsmouth speak for themselves. The capitulation at Man City, and come on, we hardly played exciting stuff at Boro (two leads squandered), Villa (point saved by Harper), Wigan or Sunderland (another get of jail match). Really, the only matches we’ve seen more than 2 minutes of decent football has been Bolton, West Ham, Everton and Tottenham. Forget results, the manner we have lost in has been alarming.

I, along with many others, didn’t want him at all although like always gave support to the new regime, but refused to get carried away with our start to the season. The anger being vented IS NOT making the manager a scapegoat. Yes there have been some really poor individual performances (the defenders he's brought in have been average at very best so far, bar perhaps Faye), but THE OVERWHELMING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS MESS LIES FIRMLY WITH ALLARDYCE. He has butchered a potentially useful bunch of players with shambolic ineptitude. Allardyce and his staff’s position should be under serious pressure.

I see us now facing two major and potentially tragic problems. First is Allardyce's stubborn nature, if not outright arrogance - can anyone see Allardyce changing?!!! Secondly, Ashley and Mort seem pretty darn new to the beast of football, so will they know when to sack, and then who to appoint?

Forget results - if we play in such appalling fashion as Saturday again, the Allardyce regime NEEDS to be ended.

Note From Luke
As I've said in the piece James, I reckon he's got until the New Year to prove he can improve things. If things remain as they are, I'm confident he will be given the chop before the FA Cup Third Round.


Posted by: James 09  | November 27, 2007 1:36 AM

iain wrote...

the fact sam had to sit the lads down after the game and ask them if they liked him and his methods says it all.

i bet if mike ashley or chris mort had sat in the dressing room whilst that happened we would already be looking for a new manager.

souness was a bad manager but i dont remember ever under him a player after 3 minutes having to ask if he was playing in mf or defence as geremi did.

i also doubt souness would of let smith so blatantly ignore ignore his calls to play rw.

there where so many hints of players going against allardyce against liverpool it was unreal. no more so than carr smirking whilst sitting behind sam as he got booed then lauging and winking at someone when he came on.

please please sack sam sooner or later, every team has bad patches but if this is what ours will be like under sam theres every chance some time down the road he could get us relegated.

he might think he doesnt have the players he wants, but he does have 10 full internationals and 4 u21 internationals and in milner/martins/nzogbia/owen/taylor/emre 4 players that the likes of pompey/villa/arsenal/liverpool/everton/west ham... basically all the teams above us would bar chelsea/manutd would probably happily sign 4/5 of our players, not to mention a spanish left back who was tipped to join barca/real later in his career and who sams has turned from a rampaging lb that i saw destroy real madrid one game into a long ball one trick pony.

Posted by: iain  | November 27, 2007 6:47 AM

Paul Patterson wrote...

What I’m currently worried about is the fact that Chris Mort and Mike Ashley are not football people and therefore won’t know when to sack a manager or who to get in if they do.

In this case you get a scenario where Sam Allardyce is 30% Chairman in charge of his own future, where he can say to the board and owner ‘Hey, in this world of football, you have to ride this kind of problem out and stick with the manager’ and if you have people in charge like we do who have no prior knowledge of football management, they will agree and Sam Allardyce will stay, when an experienced chairman would change it.

On the other hand Ashley and Mort are businessmen and if this go so far as Newcastle United look like losing premiership status, then they will HAVE to act.

I don’t believe we will be in that bad a predicament, simply because there are worse teams about (Teams that get beat 7-1 for example) The relegation zone will be occupied by Sunderland, Boro and Derby with a few other stragglers that escape because they have just enough quality.

Newcastle United fall into this category and have just enough to keep clear, there is a five or six point gap between us and 12th position and that is a mountain to teams below us- having said this, anymore performances like the last few and the others will have their hiking boots on and be ready to climb.

Here’s a question- Would Freddy Shepherd be getting ready to axe Allardyce?

The so called ‘Best start to the season’ has now been blown out so Allardyce must wake up, sadly he comes across to me as a stubborn fool, who will do things ‘My Way’ as he puts it.

And now, the end is near,
So I face, the final curtain. . .

Allardyce has said he understands the pressure of the rise in status from Bolton to Newcastle United, well if he truly believes this, he must surely understand also that implementing Bolton style tactics and methods, isn’t going to bear fruit, personally I think it’s a job that’s way out of his league and the comparison in pressure at Bolton isn’t even half of what’s here on Tyneside.

‘Yes there were times, I’m sure you knew,
When I bit off, more than I could chew,
But through it all, when there was doubt,
I ate it up, and spit it out’

The fact that performances have been awful all season doesn’t seem to register with Allardyce, as he says ‘Up until the Portsmouth game, everything was great and now it’s a disaster’ Well sorry, performances have been disastrous all season, with results only masking over our real standing in the league table.

‘I’ve loved, I’ve laughed and cried,
I’ve had my fill, my share of- losing.

Yes it could be a long bleak winter if Allardyce does it ‘His Way’

P.S: If you can have a week off, then I can use a post I have already posted on the Chronicles forum.
Plus you say Mark Viduka didn’t replace anyone. . . Antoine Sibierski?? Come on Luke- Time for another holiday eh??

Note From Luke
Good point, I'd briefly neglected the French "best free signing of the season". I'm sure you can use an old post if you want. I'm not off again until I take a long weekend in December if you must know!

Paul.

Posted by: Paul Patterson  | November 27, 2007 8:34 AM

supporter sth tyneside wrote...

Luke, i do think BS should be given the chance to turn it around. it is however a delicate balance as to how much time. if for instance we continue to lose games,by the year end we will be in a relegation fight. it seems to me that BS problems stem from his obsession with clean sheets. well we all want clean sheets, but when it becomes the overriding objective above all else,not only does entertainment go out of the window but so does winning games. it is not even that he has had success in keeping clean sheets in fact we are losing and shipping goals. someone should tell him that to win games you have to score goals. he seems to like statistics, well here is one if you kept 38 clean sheets but did not score you would be unbeaten for a whole season, and be relegated with 38 points. he has to change his attitude and set up the team to win games by attacking the opposition. at the moment he is always just trying to answer questions from the other sides he should perhaps trying posing a few of his own.

Note From Luke
I think Sam's "negative" attitude is what concerns supporters the most. Newcastle fans expect their football to be entertaining. Sam believes differently.

Posted by: supporter sth tyneside  | November 27, 2007 10:55 AM

Dale wrote...

As much as it annoys me to say this but sooner we relize the better, we are in a relegation battle.

Big Sam has done himself no favours at all with the tatics he has deployed. Our results at the begining of the season just papered over the cracks the size of the Grand Canyon.

Although the players he has bought in have looked the part. Prehaps what I am trying to say is that the players he now has at his disposal are too technically good for him as a manager. The players are more than one dimensional unlike his tactics. Does that make sense!!??

I think he has two games left to save whatever chance he has left up here. One of those is against total football Arsenal. If play like we did at the weekend our record defeat could be in jeopadry against Arsenal.

Posted by: Dale  | November 27, 2007 10:56 AM

Jon wrote...

I'm getting sick of waking up during the wee hours of the morning to watch Newcastle United blow it on the pitch.

I'm in America and am pretty much limited to watching Big Sam make disastrous decisions on internet feeds translated in Chinese. But for some reason I still wake up at 6 a.m., still scream at the video feed when it buffers, and still wake up my slumbering girlfriend when we botch chances.

You think I would have learned my lesson by now. But I haven't. I'm still going to wake up early and passionately watch Newcastle. I don't know why. I think it might be foolish optimism.

I didn't watch the Liverpool game. I was on a flight back to college from home. (Thanksgiving holiday) But when I got home, I rushed to find out the score and a large part of me was ready to see a victorious Newcastle score line. Well I was wrong, and in retrospect, not surprised.

I think it's time we got rid of Big Sam. It seems like he's lost the dressing room completely. In the words of my girlfriend, “He’s a mess.�

Ashley and Mort need to get rid of Sam before we lose valuable youngsters like Milner, Taylor, Krul and N'Zogbia.

And for god's sake. Get rid of Alan Smith. He's waste of space on the pitch. Words can’t describe how useless he is.

Supporting Newcastle in America is quite the task and so far Big Sam’s regime isn’t making it any easier.

Note From Luke
It sounds like you have an astute girlfriend!

Posted by: Jon  | November 27, 2007 3:34 PM

Paul Venn wrote...

Quick question for you Luke...In the years since Keegan left, how much have we paid to managers and other clubs in compensation? Who could we have bought with the money?

Note From Luke
Ronaldo, Maldini, Kaka, Ronaldinho, Henry, Bergkamp, Rooney to name but a few. Whether they would have wanted to come up here is another matter entirely!

Posted by: Paul Venn  | November 28, 2007 12:05 PM

edh86 wrote...

I agree with everything thats been said but ... if my maths is right (correct me if this is wrong!) big sams team is 5 points better off than glenn roeders was last season at this stage. Glenns team by this point had failed to beat boro, charlton, sheffield united, fulham and bolton and had even had a stint in the relegation zone hadn't they? Yet I cant remember this level of vitriol and abuse towards roeder at any point until the final home game. Nor even souness for that matter. It's difficult to guage sometimes not being based in newcastle but from what i understand the protests after the sheff utd defeat at SJP last year were more against the board than the manager?

So why is allardyce getting much more abuse than most so early? Is it the manner of the pompey and liverpoool defeats and the fact they came one after another at SJP?
People not being entirely happy with SAs appointment in the first place/long ball bolton tactics compared to roeder, ex-captain of the club who had rescued us from the mess souness left and becausse he wasn't graeme souness?
here a bet - we take 4 points from blackburn and arsenal and many people will be happier again and these allardyce out people will start to dwindle in numbers....until the next defeat!! contraversal, off the mark...?

Note From Luke
Interesting stats and I don't think you are wide of the mark with your argument either! Sam was not a popular appointment in the first place so it has not taken long for people to get on his back. Glenn was not a popular appointment either, but he carried some goodwill as a former captain and because of what he had acehived as caretaker.

Posted by: edh86  | November 28, 2007 12:15 PM

Jonny wrote...

Personally i have liked some of Sam's defensive buys Beye, Enrique, Rozehnal, Faye, Cacapa i think they're all good but they get confused from the amount of defensive line ups that Allardyce
puts up. I think that he has severly weakened the midfield, with Roeder and Souness the midfield seemed to be one of the only things truly going for us but now he has bought the likes of Barton, Geremi, Smith who so far have done absolutely nothing except maybe for Smith who seems to be improving and he has sold Dyer (Lets face it, he may have been arrogant, spoilt and injured but he was miles better than Smith, Geremi and Barton currently)
Parker (NEVER SHOULD OF SOLD HIM, he was brilliant and because he wasn't as good as his first year, people got his back which i think is terrible)
Solano (Fair enough, he wanted to go but the replacements for him are not good enough)

Now another problem is that Sam doesn't seem to know what his best team is, though many, many other people do know:
This roughly is what everyone's best team is
Given
Beye Taylor Rozehnal Enrique
Milner Emre Butt N'zogbia
Viduka Martins

Now for me the midfield and defence are the easiest places to fill but Allardyce seems to try his best to make it hard which is very annoying, at the very least he should know that his best wingers are N'zogbia and Milner and that if Enrique is available for left back then there is no reason to plop Zoggy at left back!!!
RAAAAAAHHHH I get so frustrated

Note From Luke
You're not the only one. You're certainly in good comapny here! Interesting views on Parker and Dyer who were the two players I was hinting at in the piece!

Posted by: Jonny  | November 28, 2007 1:04 PM

Tony Poolan wrote...

Well Luke, like you I was (am?) an advocate of giving a new NUFC manager time - especially bearing in mind the shambles of Glenn 'no injury excuses' Roeder - who I have to say was a terrific player, but not a manager - ever - and the abject failure of a number of big name managers who should have done better! I was delighted to see the back of Kieron 'yet another false dawn' Dyer and his ilk and on the face of it Allardyce's signings appear to have a track record of actually being 'good players' before we bought them - unlike say, Luque. So what worries me most now is - how on earth can these decent players look like a disorganised set of sub-pub players at St. James's? It has to be the tactics, coaching and general atmosphere behind the scenes - all of which possibly point to the manager having lost it completely in the space of a couple of months - or alternatively being so far out of his depth that Bolton should have been the height of his ambitions? Or is he just pig-headed and stubborn and refusing to see that the players he now has need a different style of play and won't budge so they won't play - in the same manner of his his ongoing pig-headed refusal to speak to the BBC. He has managed Djorkaeff, Campo, Anelka etc. apparently to good effect - so what on earth is going on? Fear seems to pervade every game we play, fear of the opposition, fear of the ball for some players and a complete lack of understanding of who is playing where and supposedly doing what. What is going on? I think we should be told!

Note From Luke
The fear factor at Newcastle is something that will get a lot more coverage in the next few days, trust me. There are some very interesting statements set to come out of SJP from some of the players about that very subject.

Posted by: Tony Poolan  | November 28, 2007 1:22 PM

Paulie'sWalnut's wrote...

Luke, I can't agree with You, if We won 8 games on the bounce playing like George Graham's Arsenal then I would'nt be too bothered about a lack of flair, the trouble is BSA's team are going out with a negative attitude and are getting battered, it's the absolute worst of both worlds.

Posted by: Paulie'sWalnut's  | November 29, 2007 9:42 AM

Nick wrote...

My biggest fear is that we now have a squad of mostly older players, who have not made the grade at the top clubs and are now past their peak i.e. Cacapa, Carr, Babayaro, Geremi, Duff, Viduka, Smith and Owen. All of the mentioned players are at Newcastle because we are the biggest club that would pay them. We really will struggle to get rid of them due to their high salary demands.

Its all too late so say what we should have done in the summer but the hierarchy at Newcastle have to act now. It was horrible to see in the summer some of the above players being signed, i was just thinking to myself 'where are we actually going with these players?'

Alladyce needs to be sacked in favour of getting a new manager who wants to start again with buying younger, hungry players with their better years ahead of them and who can play without fear. Mixed in with the better players we have hear Given, Taylor, Butt, Milner, N'Zogbia, Barton, Martins to name a few. The fans would then see that we are actually looking at building something here.

You only need to look at Aston Villa to see the template that Martin O'Neil (who we should have moved heaven and earth to recruit) has used, saying that we had a better starting base than he had to start with at Villa.

I would accept maybe a season or two of not being near the top 4 or 5 if we did start all over again with younger players, with energy, pace and passion, not the has beens Allardyce has recruited . I would like to think a lot of the other supporters would agree with me.

Note From Luke
Playing Devil's Advocate, why would you not accept one or two years away from the top five with Allardyce then? Is it just because he has signed a couple of bad players? He didn't sign Babayaro, Carr, Owen or Duff. A new manager would have exactly the same problem getting rid of some of these.
In O'Neill's first season, Villa finished in the bottom half of the PL table, two places above Newcastle.

I'm not necc saying Big Sam will get it right, but the speed with which people want him removed doesn't seem to make sense to me.

Posted by: Nick  | November 29, 2007 12:01 PM

Nick wrote...

That’s a good point you have made Luke but as you know its not just down to the results, its down to the way we are playing and the way we are more than likely to continue playing under his leadership.

Iam not going to keep making comparisons between Alladyce and O’Neil but Alladyce has managed Bolton who were not always expected to get wins and they definitely weren’t expected to put on an attractive performance.

I knew by mentioning players like Carr, Duff, Owen & Babayaro you would mention Allardyce didn’t sign them. The players he has signed certainly don’t indicate he is looking forward to the future of a fast, quick tempo side, who are going to take the games to teams. The playing style certainly suggests that we haven’t got that to look forward to either.

Iam not blaming the current situation on the players because as I have previously mentioned in other posts I believe we have a good squad, which I believe another manager could get more results out of. It’s this mentality he brings from Bolton that really worries me and why I said he could never do anything with a larger club who crave for success.

I think what we have seen so far from Alladyce at Newcastle has confirmed everybody’s suspicions and worries that he will try and re-create his Bolton formula at Newcastle United and he is way out of his depth.

Posted by: Nick  | November 29, 2007 1:38 PM

Geordie McGregor wrote...

Hi Luke, I'm still deeply hurting from that utterly disgraceful performance against Liverpool. 'Disgraceful' doesn't even do that game justice. When all factors are considered and without a word of exaggeration, it stands as one of the worst embarrassments I've seen in any sport for a long, long time.

I have agreed with a lot of your analysis and comments so far especially regarding the depressing (and on-going) lack of creativity across our midfield, but I have some issues with a few of your points (and other reader's comments) in this piece.

You wrote: "Joey Barton for Scott Parker? Alan Smith for Kieron Dyer? Cacapa for Titus Bramble?". I agree with some of your hints. I was gutted that Solano left and even more so having watched some of his performances for West Ham so far. For the most part, I liked the look of Parker. As for Bramble and Moore, I'd prefer Basil and Sybil Fawlty in my defence.

I can't really tell if your main hint is that the players who have come in have THEMSELVES been disappointments compared with the players who have left OR that Alladyce himself has made some rather confusing signings? Perhaps a bit of both.

Your questions point to the fact that Sam seems out of his depth. I really don't feel like the main responsibilities for a lot of the negatives (and there are A LOT) in how we are playing are down to the players themselves. This is not to say that all players should escape a much needed look at themselves before they put that black n' white shirt on.

However, a great deal of our problems are due to Sam. I didn't like his appointment but supported him anyway and have tried to like him, I've tried to stay positive ("we could turn things around etc etc"). But he's kicked me where the sun don't shine too many times.

We heard that this football team would not put another performance in like the one at Derby. Then, a collapse at City. Then, we made a right mess at Reading. Then, we were humiliated by Portsmouth only to be told that we would never witness a similar performance at home. Then, we look less than average against Sunderland. Then, we witness an absolute crime against Liverpool. Then...how long can this go on?

In response to one reader you say that, "the speed with which people want him removed doesn't seem to make sense to me". Please watch every horrendous minute of that Liverpool game and I suggest "the speed" will make more sense to you.

Issues surrounding Alan Smith provide painful examples of Sam's MISmanagement. Let me be clear, I am no massive fan of Smith. Never have been. Yet, he's been asked to play however many roles in the midfield when he is a forward. He has looked his best when he's been up front (ok, still nothing to write home about) and his worse when deployed in the right of midfield!!!

I have real problems with comments like those from Jon: “And for god's sake. Get rid of Alan Smith. He's waste of space on the pitch. Words can’t describe how useless he is�. No Jon, words can't describe how useless it is to have a manager who seems unwilling to make some changes that might give this football club a chance of competing. Do you blame a rugby prop for his poor performances when he plays at half-back, which helps account for the fact that the team is laughed at? No, you ring the men in white coats to come pick the coach up.
Your frustrations at Smith are better directed at the men(is it really just Sam?)who decide to play him in the positions (emphasis on the plural) he has been in so far.

We can start a more complete comparative assessment of players-brought-in versus players who have left, when players are deployed in something resembling a position they are most likely to peform well in. Granted, some versatility is needed. But Sam and others, have you ever heard of the benefits of specialization???

Smith is not the only player Sam insists to play out of position. I almost vomitted when I saw Charlie at left-back at Sunderland. A lot of the game justified my gastronomic mishaps. Charlie looked good going forward, he could have provided some more momentum if he was played in his correct position and done the unthinkable and launch a cross into the enemies' box!

Alladyce's insistence to play Smith where he is playing him is indicative of Alladyce's stubbornness!!! Luke, you rightfully pointed out a while ago that a change of philosophy in football is sometimes helpful. Now it is absolutley necessary in order for Newcastle United to at least compete.

I am furious about instructions to be "realistic" and "patient". I literally need to take a deep breath of fresh air when I read comments like Sam's post-Liverpool crap: "The supporters want so much and they want it so soon." No Sam, I first want this great football club to be able to at least compete at some stage in a football match!!! I've swallowed the brutal handful of "realistic" pills and have been reduced to the tragedy of pleading for at least one shot on target!!!!!!

I suggest you take your own advice Sam, "Get realistic", your football isn't working. CHANGE!!!

You're dead right Luke, this is Sam's "acid test". I'd actually love him to prove me wrong and get things right, to bring us some stronger indications of his "winning football". I'd love him to successfully emerge out of his acid test , starting with Newcastle actually competing. This is not the same as impatient demands for constant fluent, passing, attacking football delivered overnight. Instead, I fear that he'll descend further into sick hallucinations about playing like Bolton!

Please at least give us a chance at Ewood with a team-sheet that makes some sense!!! Then we can start holding players more accountable if we don't perform well.

Note From Luke
A lucid and powerful argument, although I'm still sticking with the view he needs more time for now. As I've said in the past, it is Sam's football philosophy which worries me the most, all this stuff about stopping the opposition playing first before anything else. That sounds too negative to me, but let's see where we are at the start of the New Year. Sam has a lot to prove in that time, if he can't start to prove that things are improving, defensively and offensively, then his position will get weaker and weaker, the opposition to him more powerful and Mike Ashley/Chris Mort will be forced to react.

Posted by: Geordie McGregor  | November 29, 2007 4:24 PM

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