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A Wise Move?

Posted by Luke on January 29, 2008 11:14 AM | 

Ah Dennis Wise. Dear old loveable, cuddly and fluffy little Dennis Wise. The man nobody in the game will have a bad word said about. The most respected man in English football. The visionary thinker, the master tactician, the cultured, artistic little Dennis Wise.

If any of these thoughts flashed across your mind when you heard the news about Wise' appointment at St James's Park you are either mad, deranged or a Chelsea fan! This is a guy who could fall out with a room full of nuns. But that does not necessarily mean his arrival at Newcastle United is bad news.

It is certainly a strange arrival given his reputation in the game, but Wise is one of those players/managers you love if they're at your club and love to hate if they are members of the opposition. There isn't really a middle ground.

It was interesting to read the various angles people have taken with this story, from those who have argued it has been done with Kevin Keegan's support as Wise will have no involvement with the first team and those who believe it has been done behind the manager's back and will lead to conflict behind the scenes at St James's Park. Are some intent on mischief making? Surely not!

In my opinion, Keegan has reluctantly accepted the need for someone like Wise and he did know about his impending arrival when he agreed to return to the club as manager a fortnight ago. Wise will help identify players, he will look after the development of the Academy and he will conduct contract negotiations.

It is a general manager type role and is as much to help chairman Chris Mort - who has no previous football experience - as relieve the workload on Keegan.

That is crucial and Wise will be part of a new three-man management structure, - the others being some guy called Tony Jimenez a football "go to guy" and Jeff Vetere, a glorified European scout - below Mort, but separate from Keegan's sphere of influence. It is a continental type set up and, I'm afraid, only time will tell if it's going to work or whether Keegan will get annoyed with the new structure and take his ball home in a huff

Keegan will coach the team, run the team, manage the team and he will sing the theme tune, if there is one. He will also have the final say on player transfers, although there could, in theory, be problems if he and Wise disagree on the ability of an individual and one or the other goes moaning to the chairman behind the other's back.

I've got to confess, I was shocked when I heard the news about Wise, particularly as the first impression was he was going to be part of the coaching staff. But if he's going to be in a suit rather than a tracksuit and generally behind the scenes at St James's Park I'm willing to accept it might be a role needed in modern football.

Only time will tell, but one thing is sure, there is no civil war at the club as has been reported elsewhere. There might be in the future, of course, but there might also be World War Three in the Middle East and I bet that rather more worrying thought doesn't keep you awake at night so why should this?

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Comments (14)

Commulus wrote...

A story which justified a front page from one of the London news rags this morning, marking a sentinel point in the history of this club. They are at last addressing one of the problems…that of the mechanics of the beast…I think!

A reasonable piece of foundation policy, that the club should retain its scouting and training systems to develop independently of the high profile head coach or manager as they used to be called, so rather than have a complete overhaul at each and every change of manager, whereupon the incumbent is insistent upon his own people, and the result being the all too familiar baby and bathwater scenario!

I seem to remember Denis Wise was baited remorselessly by the fans at Newcastle (and everywhere else for that matter), he was the Robbie Savage of his day, and I agree it’s better to have him inside spitting out, but will there be conflict, wasn’t this scene played out at Chelsea causing so much resentment and interference to Jose?

Didn’t Dennis once get sent off here for gnawing on Barry Venison’s leg?

Note From Luke
It wouldn't be a surprise. I asked Dennis for a few words when I bumped into him at Arsenal on Tuesday night and got a short but sweet "No mate." We are not mates I hasten to add so it was effectively just a no!

Posted by: Commulus  | January 29, 2008 12:54 PM

James 09 wrote...

Would much really be that surprising with NUFC?

Obviously a piece of silverware would be somewhat of a fright, but I wouldn't bat an eyelid if we signed Dame Edna bright and early tomorrow morning.


Posted by: James 09  | January 29, 2008 1:26 PM

Paul Patterson wrote...

If there’s going to be World War III in the middle East, there could be no better person to have with you than ‘The Evil Wise’ sadly his qualifications as a footballer and now Director are under serious question.

I’ve long desired for a Director of Football to be in place, it’s just I disagree with the personnel involved as it looks like we’ve got Kirstie Allsop and Phil Spencer in on the board now.

What the hell do estate agents know about football? That’s all this guy is (Tony Jimenez) and Jeff Vetere was a International scout for Charlton Athletic no less.

Well I can’t remember Charlton signing too many Ronaldo’s or Drogba’s in the past (Mind you neither have we) but it’s just the position that Keegan now stands in that worries me- I’d get down the bookies and put a nice £20 on him to be next manager out the door in the Premiership- It looks a nailed on cert- he’ll either walk or be pushed- imagine Wise, Jimenez or Vetere saying to Keegan, ‘Here’s a player, were signing him for you, make him play’

The word ‘off’ would be used rather quickly, with either;- I’m or F***- being used first.

Dennis Wise is as qualified to be a Director of Football as Arnold Rimmer is to be in charge of Red Dwarf, both have roles in their respective fields, but should never have been appointed above Division One Journeyman and Second Technician respectively.

If you were going to look for a ‘General Manager’ (Whatever that is?) then Sir Bobby Robson would be a better option, I’ve always wondered why we got rid of another man who ended up at Leeds,- John Carver, he’s surely wasted now, after leaving Luton, surely a place could be found for him at the club- Reserve Team Manager, Youth Director perhaps?

Oh and hot off the press- we've just had a bid rejected for Giles Barnes.

Either way the events look good in strategy, but look idiotic and messy on paper, time will indeed tell if it all works out for the best, but I’m more than a little concerned at the way things are going.

Paul.

Posted by: Paul Patterson  | January 29, 2008 2:26 PM

ohad wrote...

firstly i from the middle east (israel) and you spot on with your last sentence... :)

anyway- i don't think it will change much... after all the players do the talking and not the backroom staff...

anyway, i really please to hear we are starting to do an arsenal with our transfer policy... if those youngsters will play as half as good as arsenal kids- then our future is bright.

i have a good feeling about kadar... watch this space...

oh, and sorry for my english!

Note From Luke
No need to apologise for your English, it's a lot better than anyone here's Hebrew!

Posted by: ohad  | January 29, 2008 7:02 PM

ROBERT SMITH wrote...

Re - Wise - you were shocked Luke because NUFC is a better soap opera than Eastenders!!! Why not appoint the Mitchell brothers as well??? Lets face facts - no new signings - no wins - no goals. Keegan to be gone by the end of May 2008 - put your money on it!!! Vive la revolution - all praise to the Geordie Messiah!!!

Posted by: ROBERT SMITH  | January 30, 2008 7:45 AM

Ronnie Lambert wrote...

At first hearing about this I was surprised, not shocked. Then I thought of how much I'd respected him as a tenacious little terrier of a player, not hated him as popular opinion seems to be. Yes, the kind of guy you'd want in the trenches on your side but he's not gonna be in the trenches, he's upstairs. Actually he'll be darn sarf a lot of the week so we'll hardly ever see him, but I'm certain that he'll be respective to Kev at least for what he's accomplished in the game, and his age superiority. I cannot forsee any problems between them at all, Den has a job to do albeit a new job description to my knowledge, and it's for the oberall improvement of the club's future so bring it on. I only hope the doomsters, of which this site seems to attract occasionally, stop trying to create problems and welcome the guy like Geordies are famous for.

Posted by: Ronnie Lambert  | January 30, 2008 8:57 AM

Keith Hutton Africa wrote...

This is going from bad to incredibly stupid, can you imagine Wise & Barton having contract talks, Why do N'catle insist on having every unstable person in the universe on their staff. The fat lads is without idea and makes Freddy look clever, what next?

Note From Luke
Relegation?

Posted by: Keith Hutton Africa  | January 30, 2008 10:55 AM

Theo wrote...

Well well well Luke here we are again!!!! Another day another bit of unexpected maddness (or is it now to be expected with the toon!) You already know how i feel about the KK appointment and here we have yet another unambitious selection. What this also highlights is the lack of belief in KK's all round management skills. To be honest i see the merits in totally restructuring the club to enable us to finally consistently produce young emerging talents rather than go out and splash 16.5 million on over the hill strikers that don't really wana be here! Any way back to Wise, why doesn't he stick with the apparent good job he's doing at Leeds? What has he done in the game to merit him being elevated to such a lofty status as being named Director of Football at nufc? Surely if the appointment is going to be made there are far better candidates out there? Ashley is good friends with some ex-Tottenham director Kemsley, it seems our club is being influenced greatly by outside influences, he was apparently envolved with bringing Redknapp to the toon, was apparently involved with bringing in Tony Jimenez who in turn brought Wise. There seems to be 'cronyism' at play here and nufc could suffer for it. We should be a meritocracy. Ashley's first appointment of KK now is proved to be more of a selection as a cheerleader, someone who the he knows will allow for time and galvanize the Geordie nation behind the new regime while they restructure the club behind the scenes. This cast doubt over how much this team can really be said to be KK's....A final thought, 3 games 0 goals, thank goodness attacking football is back!!!!

Posted by: Theo  | January 30, 2008 11:39 AM

Dale wrote...

I wonder why Shearer said "no" to this role? I presume this was the one he was offered?

The only thing this season has to offer is for us to be dragged in to the relegation dog fight. If we don't win against Boro on saturday then strap you yourself in. It could get very bumpy.

Posted by: Dale  | January 30, 2008 12:25 PM

William P wrote...

Those were the days my friend We Took the Leases End!!! Remember this one all you true Mag's NO? Neither do I" but it's happened the Cockney w******'s have done it they have taken us. It's not about the club or the fans OR the football., It's all about the Money!! come on" we all know that the little
"Wiesel" is a true Blue through and through.. I must have been blinded by the smoke screen.....Come back Freddie! perhaps Big Sam was a mistake but he din't do that bad a job, Freddie I mean...

Note From Luke
You will not find much support for Freddie Shepherd here I'm afraid, no matter how strange recent developments at SJP have been. As I said in my Arsenal match report, let's at least give the new management structure time to work before we pass judgement on its success. I'll be as critical as anyone if it doesn't, but at the moment, I feel the criticism of something which hasn't even begun a little hard to take. It is a strcuture replicated at plenty of other clubs -Chelsea and Tottenham for example - and is the norm in Europe. The question is whether KK likes the new arrangement, but he seems to be at the moment. As I've said, let's not assume anything that this stage about how it will work or whether its success.

Posted by: William P  | January 30, 2008 4:09 PM

Tony Brown wrote...

Hello Luke, With regard to the appointment of Dennis Wise, I have to say that my initial reaction was one of dismay. After the emotional uplift that Keegan's arrival produced, this came as the antidote. I can appreciate Mort's need for advice in his new career, but, Wise seems the wrong one to be turning to. Not only that, but Keegan's reaction has been very uncharacteristic in terms of enthusiasm and he's normally not one to put a bridle on his emotions. I thought that Ashley and Mort had caught the mood of the fans when they brought in KK, however, I'm not so sure now. It's a reality that you don't appoint anonymous, uncharismatic figures at NUFC if you want to generate support: The fans like flamboyant colourful personalities. Of the trio recently arrived, charisma is notably absent. Wise's response to you, "No mate", is an indication of the advances he has made in his social development since the time he was charged with an assault on a taxi driver some years ago. Had events on the field been going better, then his arrival may have caused less controversy, handicapped as he is by a general lack of popularity. All in all, I don't view this move as being of much benefit to the club or to Keegan. I would like to be proved wrong, but I doubt that I will.
Yours, Tony Brown.

Note From Luke
Let's just hope we hear and see precious little about Mr Wise because, if that's the case, we can guess that things are working as planned by Mort et al.

Posted by: Tony Brown  | January 30, 2008 5:09 PM

Little Lord Fauntleroy wrote...

Once again we are the laughing stock of football....

However, I don't like the negativity of everyone. Let's give this a chance to see if it works. We won't get relegated but we won't finish top half. It shows how far back we went under Allardyce. (I had a strange dream about meeting him the other night and telling him what I really thought of him!!!)
It was his team that Keegan inherited.
We've got some tough games coming up but we'll be OK.
Stay behind the team

Posted by: Little Lord Fauntleroy  | January 31, 2008 12:21 PM

Edmond Dante wrote...

Dennis Wise eh? Didn't see that one coming, although he isn't very tall. (Sorry)

I remember beating Chelsea 4-2 at home in our second season back in the top flight, I nearly lost my voice screaming abuse at Wise, who I believe was sent off. Then again, that year I and many others did the same thing to a certain Blackburn forward by the name of A. Shearer.

Lets give him our support and see how this turns out. Unless we really are the knee jerk reactionary cretins we have been portrayed as in the national press for the best part of a month.

Note From Luke
Well said Edmond

Posted by: Edmond Dante  | January 31, 2008 1:05 PM

trev wrote...

My money is on Wise being our next manager - if Kev doesn't work his magic quickly enough.

Cuddly old Mike did not become a billionaire by being a soft touch. He's used to getting results in business and it is likely that he has put in place a succession plan.

My bet is that he has given the fans their hero and therefore can't be challenged on not acceeding to their wishes. No doubt he is prepared to give KK his chance, the question is, for how long?

He will have been impressed with the way Wise has turned Leeds around and has brought him in to "sit on the bench," just in case.

Posted by: trev  | January 31, 2008 5:42 PM

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