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Talk To The Hand Because Keane Ain't Listening

Posted by Luke on March 20, 2008 2:13 PM | 

Some managers want to be close to their players, some even want to be friendly in an effort to get the best out of them. Roy Keane doesn’t even bother speaking to them.

Well he does, but only when he has to, like match days and, perhaps, a team talk in training to discuss what happened in the previous game. The rest of the time, Keane does a lot of standing around looking contemplative and moody.

I’m pretty sure it isn’t an approach that features prominently in the Beginner's Guide to Coaching manual but it is typical of Keane and the image he likes to project. The question is, though, will it work to keep Sunderland up this season?

There is undoubtedly an aura around Keane - as there used to be with another former Manchester United midfielder and captain Bryan Robson until everyone realised he was basically a poor manager dressed up as a great player - and it is something he enjoys.

Of course, he would never tell you that he enjoys it, Keane never tells anyone that he enjoys anything. That is another part of his image management. He doesn’t want you to know what he is feeling.

And he also doesn’t want anyone to know what he is thinking either, he likes surprises and he loves the fact people think he is unpredictable because he doesn’t want anyone to feel relaxed around him.

When Keane was a young man he played under Brian Clough at Nottingham Forest and there is plenty of Cloughie in Keano and it is something he has deliberately cultivated.

Like Clough, Keane criticises when people expect praise and vice-versa. He will drop players who feel they are safe in the team because he wants to guard against complacency and, while he would never dream of taking a call from anyone in the media, he is great to deal with when he has to fulfil his media duties.

When Kieran Richardson, Michael Chopra, Danny Higginbotham and Daryl Murphy were all left out of the squad to face Chelsea last weekend rumours were rife of naughty behaviour. That may well, indeed, have been the case, but Keane is adamant four regular first team players were left out because they had simply not done enough in training.

Midweek drinking session or slack attitude in training, it’s difficult to decide which would upset him more! Keane, though, actually smiles at the memory of what he did. As he doesn’t do banter and doesn’t do friends, as he often reminds us, it’s nice to know something amuses him!

There will be some players who enjoy working with Keane and some who don’t, but ultimately, that isn’t a concern for the supporters.

Keane’s management style is unorthodox and he is an unconventional character, but ultimately, image management or not, the only thing that will matter between now and May is whether he keeps Sunderland in the Premier League.

It’s all very well adopting Clough’s style, it’s another thing entirely to replicate his success as a manager. That is the real challenge for Keane and he knows it...

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Comments (4)

Paul Patterson wrote...

The way a manager is judged is on what he buys in the transfer window- and Roy Keane, or Kevin Keegan for that matter, is no different.

Granted Keegan has had, two weeks of a window to Keane’s two full periods- Keegan must be wishing he had had another full window to buy players now.

Keane bought big, really big- didn’t he spend nigh on £40m? But on what? A £10m goalkeeper that is, well a bit average to be honest, add in a host of players that are simply not up to Premier League level and it’s no wonder they are battling relegation.

The Newcastle United signings are the same- Allardyce bought poorly and then slammed his own signings as being ‘second choice’ - Charming!

He then remarked that he didn’t want his future as manager in the hands of the players he had at the club- Double Charming!!

A striker that hasn’t scored in three years and a left back he refused to play (For £12m in total???) Add in a bad boy midfielder and a fair-weather aussie and it’s no wonder Newcastle United are struggling either.

Down the road at chemical induced Middlesbrough we see an honourable effort to blood youngsters, with semi-decent results, but £12m on (The Fonz) Alves is just crackers. The real Fonz had far more style and cool about him. It seems North east managers seem intent on wasting money on players with either no, or poor Premiership pedigree.

Keane has been hoyyed in at the shallow end in the transfer market, as there are fewer players willing to come to Sunderland and as a consequence can’t build a side anywhere near good enough to get top half.

Allardyce was as limited in the transfer market by his superiors as he was a talented coach- he had nearly nowt to spend and he had nearly nowt upstairs as regards coaching ability- after all, if you need 25+ coaching staff around you, that must be covering for some major deficiencies in one‘s own ability- and the players he did spend money on he wasted (Smith, Barton, Enrique)- And to think he said he was a ‘top man in (his) field’- heaven knows what would have happened if we’d got a lesser coach then (Big)?? Sam.

Kevin Keegan, no matter what you say about his tactical ability, he had a great record in the market first time round and he seemed to sign good players at Man City and Fulham- lets hope he’s still up to it.

Onto Roy Keane- Undoubted class that Keiron Richardson is, that isn’t going to keep Sunderland up- after all Cristiano Ronaldo he aint. Richardson isn’t going to be the almost one man band that the Portuguese winker is but he will do well for Sunderland if he stays fit.

Boro have an overpriced striker and a winger that has had his head turned by Tottenham and little else.

Newcastle have overpriced striker and a winger that has had his head turned by Tottenham and little else.

Ok Newcastle actually have a great pair of keepers and a young, bright right winger and a loose cannon up front as well, but very, very little else.

If (And it’s a big if) any, two or all three stay up, massive restructuring is needed, probably involving more money than you can throw at Heather Mills and lots of coming’s and goings, bootings up back sides and demolishing of over-inflated ego’s.

From my own personal point of view maybe, just maybe Newcastle can get it together better than the other two.

In the meantime, there’s a relegation battle to focus on.

Good Luck everyone!

Paul.

Note From Luke
I wondered how long it would take before we received a Heather Mills reference on Luke Who's Talking. I couldn't have slipped one in any better myself!
As for Keegan, as long as Newcastle stay up, the real second coming as manager begins when he can sign his own players. Hopefully he'll do enough to make sure he gets that chance because, as you say, he has a very good record in the market.

Posted by: Paul Patterson  | March 20, 2008 9:49 PM

jac mills wrote...

Luke

Outstanding column on Keane! My sentiments exactly, but you put the case much better than I could. I have always thought of Keane as dour, and a man not really his own self. As you say, he is emulating Clough, maybe Robson. I feel that people who try to emulate others to this degree cannot really be themselves. But maybe that is for the better with Keane. He is the personality who would pit his people against each other, instigate competition, often where it is not constructive, and where teamwork would be more suitable. I think that such "bosses" often become imbued with the intrigues they set in place and forget the real objectives. It would be difficult to play for a man like Keane, even if you were a young Pele. His results so far at the top level show, to me at least, he is lacking, personally. His kind rarely would attract a Ronaldo or a Terry. My friend Blind Freddy can see that.

Note From Luke
I'm always happy to take compliments so thanks, glad you enjoyed reading it.

Posted by: jac mills  | March 21, 2008 10:27 AM

andrew wrote...

Not just a reaction to saturdays result but for at least 12 months now i happen to think that Keane is the real deal. SAFC are currently 28 places higher than when he arrived.

Sunderland may have spent £45m but that has them above Birmingham (£32m) and Derby (£13m). I believe in Jones they have a £15m market value centre forward and in gordon a keeper who IS emerging as one of the best in the Premiership.

As for Keegens transfer record it was very good last time around but was dismal at Citeh last time out. The market has changed - due to sky money and top players wanting Champions League football. Unless Ashley is prepared to put his hand in his pocket to the tune on £150 - and im not talking HBOS share trading - then it has to be a long haul built on young emerging talent. Spurs have gone down that route for 4 years now.

A secondary problem for Keegen is that unlike Jones, Gordon, Richardson, Reid, Whitehead, Murphy, Chopra et all - who are all the right side of 25/26 - the Butts, Viduka, Owens, Givens, Carrs and Harpers of this world are not. In practice that means that age dictates the sunderland squad will be marginally better next year and Nufc marginally worse.

I can see Keane following the progress of Blackburn, Spurs, Everton and Blackburn - unspectacular but steady. Keane has age and the fans on his side to do it. The question for Keegen is to whether he (or anyone) has Ashleys support to do a Chealsea. I do not think he has age or the fans on his side for the unspectacular but steady progress.

My prediction for the next 12 months. Sunderland move too mid table mediocrity and newcastle will get a new owner and a new manager.

Note From Luke
I think Keane has done the best he can as I just don't think any of the top players wanted to come to Sunderland. However, he still mainly signs what he knows, ex Manchester United and Ireland players and there is going to come a time when he has to change that. The £5m spent on Chopra looked a lot, even if he did score against Villa, while the likes of Paul McShane, Rade Prica, Danny Higginbotham, Ian Harte and Anthony Stokes have hardly been a resounding succees have they?

Posted by: andrew  | March 24, 2008 11:59 AM

lmr wrote...

Surely it's better for Keane to sign what he knows than take a blind gamble on recommendations of agents and a few edited video highlights until he gets the scouting system he wants... find me a manager that's never made a mistake in the transfer market and you have a manager who's never been active.....

Note From Luke
Quite right Lmr which, as a guess, stands for Lauren! Overall, I don't think Keane's record in the transfer market is a bad one.

Posted by: lmr  | April 8, 2008 10:27 AM

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