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Don't Know What You're Doing

Posted by Luke on April 22, 2008 1:12 PM | 

Roy Keane hasn’t done much wrong since he became Sunderland’s manager, but he must take a large amount of the blame for their Tyne-Wear derby defeat.

Damningly, even the Newcastle fans I have spoken to could not believe how poor their local rivals were last Sunday. Okay, so they were generally more interested in laughing at the demise of the Black Cats than expressing any sort of sympathy, but they had a point.

The scoreline may have been just 2-0 but Sunderland were just as bad in that game as they were in the 4-1 defeat at the Stadium of Light two years ago - and that really is saying something.

With that in mind, the derby loss is a nasty stain on Keane’s managerial career, in the same way that a blue biro exploding in the pocket of your suit trousers is. It doesn’t how many times you wash it, it doesn’t matter how hard you scrub, it ain’t coming out in a hurry.

The tubby lad Andy Reid playing behind a lone striker? Grant Leadbitter, local lad, Sunderland through and through, left out of the side in favour of Liam Miller, a player Keane threw on to the transfer list as he couldn’t manage to turn up to training on time and who hasn’t played a first team game since February?

Then there was the formation? 4-5-1 to protect the back four, which is fair enough I suppose when you consider how prolific Newcastle have been with their three-man strikeforce, but why did he stick with it in the second half when they were already 2-0 down?

And then there is Michael Chopra. I have to be honest, I felt a little sorry for Chops when he came on as a late substitute and was booed so passionately by Newcastle’s fans.

This would have been the one game he would have been desperate to play in, but he gets left on the bench by his stubborn manager and then finds out that he is hated by his fellow Newcastle fans as well.

Not a happy day for the lad. Wonder if he’s got his bags packed for a return to Cardiff yet! At least he might actually get to play up front for a change!

Which brings me back to Keane. I get the impression he has reached the end of his tether with a lot of the players in his squad. They know he plans to sign better players in the summer and a lot of them will suspect their days are numbered at the Stadium of Light, which is never likely to bring out the best in any side.

However, as safety has not been guaranteed yet - I’d still be very surprised if either Sunderland or Middlesbrough went down - it will be a challenge for Keane to make sure his side do rather better in another derby against the Smoggies on Saturday. It will also give him the chance to redeem himself a little after Sunday’s demoralising defeat.

In contrast, all that is left for Newcastle fans is to enjoy the satisfying glow that comes from the knowledge that you have given your fiercest rivals another good shafting. Cigarette anyone?

Comments (9)

zulu wrote...

Wonderful atmosphere at SJP for the derby, pleased that Michael Owens is starting to repay his 100,000 plus per week. Where are all those doubting Thomases about King Kev now Luke. Chairman was proved right, and three up front is paying dividends.

Posted by: zulu  | April 22, 2008 2:22 PM

Snapper wrote...

Your right the Makems were terribly poor, a team made up of over the hill Irishmen and Man Utd cast offs were never likely to hack it at the highest level. I must say the "ginga" right back was probably the poorest I have seen in the top league, what David Ginola would have done to him makes your toes curl. The only player they had was Kenwyn Jones up front, reminded me of Wyn Davies, but at least Davies had a poacher supreme along side him in "Pop" Robson, poor old Kenwyne Must have felt like a leper, he was so isolated. They say that Keane is hot on discipline, what then was that rotund figure doing wearing Red and White stripes, he looked as it he had escaped from the spring ad of weight watchers.

Note From Luke
That has brightened up my morning Snapper. You're spot on about Jones, which is why the non-appearance of Chopra from the start was such a strange decision. Was it spite from Keano?!

Posted by: Snapper  | April 23, 2008 8:14 AM

halfmanhalfkeebab wrote...

sunderland are a poor side with a collection of players more equipped for the Championship than the Premiership. No decent top flight player will opt for Sunderland as a career option quite simply because they are a yo yo club that will acheive nothing of any note in the Premiership save for occassional survival after prolonged relegation battles. Look at this season. Again, relegation on the menu but it looks as if they will be saved by virtue of the fact that there are worse teams in the league this season. Next season may be a different matter. Having said this, I think Roy Keane did the best he could with what he had on Sunday. Newcastle play 3 in midfield and as such were outnumbered by Sunderlands 5 with the result being that Geremi & Barton were harried into regularly giving the ball away. Against a better side this may have cost us dearly but as Sunderland had no one with any real class, they had no idea how best to use the ball when they had it! Yes, Keane could have changed it in the second half but I suspect he was rather hoping that the amount of possession they were having would pay dividends. Happily it did not. Newcastle played badly at the SOL and got a draw. They did not play well on Sunday and won. What does that say about Sunderland?

Note From Luke
That is probably a worry for Newcastle's new formation. If the midfield gives the ball away as frequently as it did on Sunday, other teams will punish them, particularly if they have decent wingers with pace. If Geremi gives the ball away, he's never going to get it back because he's too slow. This could lead to Beye being horribly exposed. Teams will be working out how to combat the new formation and it's probably only a matter of time before they do. Better players are needed to make it work properly.

Posted by: halfmanhalfkeebab  | April 23, 2008 9:06 AM

Paul Patterson wrote...

I’m disappointed that the Journal didn’t report on the fighting that took place after the Newcastle v Sunderland match.

I’m not talking about the skirmishes between fans outside the ground, but the one that started in Newcastle United’s dressing room.

It has been reported that when Andy Reid came off the pitch, he was so dizzy off Newcastle players running rings round him all afternoon, that he accidentally wandered into the wrong dressing room and caught sight of a very large buffet being laid on to celebrate Newcastle’s resounding victory.

Moments later, in came Mark Viduka and saw Andy Reid tucking into one of the many pies on display. Furious at what he saw, he threw Reid against a wall and told him to get back to the losers dressing room, or he would sort him out.

No local media reported the incident as they were all numb with shock, but it was reported back in Viduka’s home country of Australia, because when Andy Reid hit the wall, officials in Oz reported what they thought was an earthquake and were ready to order a full scale evacuation of many towns and cities.

Paul.

Note From Luke
Fat people have feelings as well you know Paul and you shouldn't make cheap gags at their expense. You really shouldn't mock them. It's not their fault they like pies and cake, and chocolate and sweets and KFC and McDonalds and steak and more pie and chips and more chips and more chips and cake and more cake. God, some people are just so insensitive!

Posted by: Paul Patterson  | April 23, 2008 10:50 AM

Ronnie Lambert wrote...

I was quite slim for my age of 42 when I slipped a disc. So from doing all manner of building work, playing regular 5 a-side, and occasional 11 a-side footie...to absolutely zilch exercise, my weight shot up. Then having to turn pro-singer at 45 after 2 failed ops and heavier still, despite diets, I had to develop razor-sharp wit to counteract the pie jibes on stage. You couldn't succeed really against drunken morons without equally acerbic repartee which was ultimately non-characteristic of me as a person. Stuff like, " I'd board your mouth up kidda but I couldn't afford the wood." This made people think I was a bit of a hard lad which in itself could prove uncomfortable at times. Anyway, not wanting to put a damper on the happy mirth of my friend Paul above, the lad Reid must have some serious metabolic problem if he trains everyday and remains like a tub o' lard, and he was arguably their best player in my opinion. For a dare Luke, print my lyric for, " Start Me Diet On Monday." Which I originally penned for portly Gazza when he played for Glasgow Rangers. It provides a wry insight to the sadness of us overweight HUMAN BEINGS.

Posted by: Ronnie Lambert  | April 23, 2008 1:04 PM

Phil wrote...

Great win by the Toon. It was almost like Keane had conceded that we were too good for Sunderland, which turned out to be the case. I would like to have seen us hit two more in the second half, but I was relieved no one got injured by the repeated cheap shots of a few players in red.
Luke and Paul - you're both insensitive - how would you two like it if you were a lardass like Reid, and people implied you ate too much?

Note From Luke
Sensitivity has never been one of my strong points!

Posted by: Phil  | April 23, 2008 5:23 PM

Paul Patterson wrote...

Ok, three men walk into a pie shop, one of them is Andy Reid. . .

No seriously, I can understand mere mortals of the plebian public like us, getting a bit large around the belly area, but a so called, Professional footballer (Like you said Ronnie) on X amount of pounds a week, training twice a day, three or four times a week, is bordering on the shoddy.

When I saw him before kick off I just prayed he wasn’t playing in goal, we might never have scored. Young Owen might have got the opener, but the penalty would certainly have been saved.

In the public at large it’s traditional to have the so called ‘Jolly fat man’ standing next to the bar and the ones I know are certainly the most jolly and positive people you could meet- maybe they wouldn’t be if they were pasty, veggie munchers?

Against Sunderland the worrying thing from the red and white point of view must surely be- If Newcastle can have four players off their game, and STILL score twice and look comfortably better than them, then they will have problems.

That’s two games now- we should have been beaten at the Stadium of Darkness and at St James’ Park, we were poor, yet miles better than Sunderland for long periods. Sunderland have only a point against us this season.

I’m disappointed that we didn’t ‘Set Martins’ onto Paul Mcshane right from the off, as he had the beating of him, yet only got free of him once, where Gordon made a canny enough save.

Owen had a poor game by his standards, yet still scored two, Viduka was anonymous, Geremi did nowt apart from the one cross for Owens gaol and then made it his personal goal to pass to as many Sunderland players as possible, Barton hardly ventured past the half way line- shocking that we won 2-0 really.

But that’s football, I’m still happy were safe and ready to march onto next season, Sunderland and the Smogged bunch on the other hand. . .

Paul.

Posted by: Paul Patterson  | April 24, 2008 2:11 PM

zulu wrote...

Two comments Luke;
one - still think Vids is overweight, and remember Micky Quinn !
two - What I noticed about the Mackems was that they seem to have bulked up - looks like too much bodybuilding has been going on, maybe the Irish mentality of big strong chests and arms are needed to get the job done. They certainly seemed a yard, or too slower at the breakdowns.

Note From Luke
Or just overweight...

Posted by: zulu  | April 25, 2008 9:01 AM

alan wood wrote...

luke who talks a load of rubbish
i have just read your article in the journal this morning regarding bragging rights sunderland have nothing to brag about just escaping relegation by only 3 points as for losing yo-yo tag im afraid that stigma will always be with them stop trying to build them up as if they are something special never won a thing since the seventies (yes i know neither have newcastle) since 69 but we dont go on and on and on about being top dogs by the end of season failed again miserably.

Note From Luke
Alan, I suspect you are the first of many to disagree with me, but my whole point was that success is relative - in this case to pre-season ambition. Sunderland's was to stay up, which they did, Newcastle's was to push for Europe, which they didn't.

Posted by: alan wood  | May 13, 2008 6:58 AM

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