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Give Him A Chance Before You Moan

Posted by Luke on July 14, 2008 4:32 PM | 

Danny Guthrie. Not exactly a new name to send a shiver down your spine, but from what I've been told by a Bolton supporting friend of mine, he isn't the mediocre Premier League midfielder some have written him off as.

According to my man in the know, Guthrie was a rare source of pleasure in an otherwise dismal season while on loan at the Reebok Stadium and Wanderers were desperate to sign him on a permanent basis.

Alright, granted, his arrival is exactly a bold statement about the club's ambition and it isn't the sort of big name signing which is going to sprinkle some stardust on Kevin Keegan's squad, but that doesn't necessarily mean he isn't going to be a success at St James's Park.

I guess there is something galling about buying someone from Liverpool's reserve team, but those supporters who still believe Newcastle can compete with the big boys for the biggest names in European football are sadly mistaken.

Liverpool are in the Champions League and have one of the best midfields in Europe, so there is no shame in the fact Guthrie couldn't get a game at Anfield. If you remember, Blackburn Rovers plucked David Bentley out of Arsenal's reserves and he's an England international after a couple of good seasons at Ewood Park.

Without European football this season and without the sort of financial backing enjoyed by Manchester City and Chelsea, Kevin Keegan has to cut his cloth accordingly and Guthrie might prove to be an inspired choice.

As for those who are jealous of City, let's just remember this is a club which has sacked Sven Goran-Eriksson after just one season, despite finishing in the top half of the table and qualifying for the Uefa Cup via the Fairplay thingy-me-jig! Oh and the owner is on trial in his native Thailand....

At the very least, those who are questioning Keegan's judgement or worrying about the lack of ambition being shown in the transfer market should at least keep their mouths shut until the kid - he's only 21 remember - has had a chance to show us what he can do.

This time last year, Newcastle were preparing to spend £6m to sign Alan Smith from Manchester United. My prediction is that Guthrie will prove to be far better acquisition at one sixth of the cost, but then again, I've never been Smith's biggest fan have I!?

At this stage, I think we should all just remind ourselves that it isn't the price on the ticket that matters, it's the quality of the garment which ultimately determines whether you have got value for money or not.

Now all Keegan needs is a couple of full-backs, a centre-back, an attacking and creative midfielder and perhaps another striker to add a little bit of magic to a hardworking, but pedestrian side.

Finally, there were a few technical problems with this blog at the end of last week and over the weekend, but I think everything is working properly again now after an upgrade which actually made the system harder to operate than before. Progress indeed!

Comments (16)

Paul Patterson wrote...

I think your comparisons with David Bentley and Alan Smith are spot on, in the way that one is a £6m flop and the other was destined for the Englishmans scrap heap at Arsenal and proved that he’s actually a good player.

I’m still fascinated with the idea of Joao Moutinho attacking for us next season, that I’d make him our top priority for ‘spending big’ this summer, as he would cost a pretty penny, but would be worth it- kind of like the new Emre,. . . But good.

That would make a midfield engine room of Butt and Moutinho, with Guthrie and Geremi flitting in and out as and when form dictates. Add that to the fact that we have James Milner and Jonas Gutierrez on the flanks, with N’Zogbia and Duff backing them up, the midfield would be looking pretty good.

The back four, instead of signing Anton Ferdinand, which would be a complete waste of time and money, but Aaron Hughes would be a great signing and a very shrewd one as he would cost a couple of million, would cover the entire back four AND knows the area and club well enough not to need settling in.

Get a top notch striker, with height and pace, to enhance Owen and Martins and to bring on Carroll and we will have a pretty good side on our hands.

Paul.

Posted by: Paul Patterson  | July 14, 2008 5:16 PM

Brian wrote...

I have a friend who is a Bolton season ticket holder, and he was raving about Danny Guthrie, he is a box to box full of energy type player, and can play on either wing as well. Lets hope we have uncovered a gem, It,s about time we did.

Posted by: Brian  | July 14, 2008 7:47 PM

JC wrote...

I've seen this boy play a fair bit and he is POTENTIALLY an excellent addition to the squad. Well pointed out on Bentley, who's to say Guthrie wont do the same! I'd rather we bought someone like him, who'll be hungry to succeed and has talent than someone who's just here to wind his career down on a fat salary. This signing however doesn't mask the massive holes that can still be found in the squad. Couldn't agrre more with your assessment of what's needed Luke, I just hope that at least one of those is a 'marquee' signing. Ashley needs to do something that is going to excite us...so far I've seen no statement of intent from the big man

Posted by: JC  | July 15, 2008 8:46 AM

Ste wrote...

I think you've got a good player there Luke. I saw him in the reserves the season before last and he was honest, intelligent and looked like he had an eye for a pass. The reserve team did well that year as well and he was central to that.

Like you say, no shame in being kept out of a team by Steven Gerrard and Javier Mascherano. For some reason, Rafa rates Lucas above him (maybe because he offers a bit more of an attacking threat) but I know a lot of Liverpool fans will be sorry to see a good youngster moving on.

Note From Luke
That's a very interesting perspective Ste. I'm actually intrigued to see how he does. You're the second person who has told me good things about him. He's also young and English and there aren't many of them coming through!

Posted by: Ste  | July 15, 2008 9:11 AM

Dave Mac wrote...

Fair do's Luke. I was hoping we could have offloaded Smith to Rangers this window. Duff to move might have brought in a few quid as well. As for Ameobi, drop the price to 1.5, take the cash and save the wages.

Posted by: Dave Mac  | July 15, 2008 9:24 AM

Jason wrote...

I must have sunstroke I agree completely. Guthrie good signing and I like you never rated Alan Smith.

From what I saw of Guthrie last season he rarely gives away possession and works hard, a bit like a certain Mr Lee that KK signed once upon a time. Hopefully special K can develop him into a genuine goal threat as well and then we can all live happily ever after.

I think he is just as good and better value than Steven Sidwell and Steven Davis who had been linked with moves.

I still think there is more to come and amazingly agree with you again that our days of signing of the top players are on hold so although they've been relegated I'd be tempted to offer Reading £10m for Lita,Kitson, Shorey, and or Birmingham the same for McFadden & Larsson. That just leaves the elusive centre half. Cueller? Dawson?

It would also not surprise me to see some KK old boys such as Finnan,SWP, Van Buyten come to the club depending on just how much money there is.

By the way what do you know about Bassong?

Note From Luke
I hope Newcastle do sign Shorey as Leyton Orient have a 15% sell-on clause so we'll get a nice windfall if and when he moves this summer. I don't know anything at all about Bassong and I can only assume that neither does Keegan which is why he has given him a trial.


Posted by: Jason  | July 15, 2008 9:58 AM

M. Sebastian T. wrote...

Nothing at all to excite as yet at Newcastle or most other premier league clubs. Undoubtedly the truth is that Toon are not going to sign big name players this summer. As I have commented before KK has a big squad already that he can work on including Smith. Perhaps next year things will be different!

Posted by: M. Sebastian T.  | July 15, 2008 11:13 AM

ron lambert wrote...

Guthrie will get a great reception from the fans because he's a 100 percenter, is dying to play for the Toon army after savouring the atmosphere playing for Bolton last season, and was loved by Bolton fans for his attitude and commitment. This description never applied to poor kid Smith who's commitment has sadly never been less than 100%, but without results. Yes, young Guthrie knows how big he can become under KK's teutelage and the Toon army's backing, watch him go my bros, the new Robert Lee. Strangely enough though, a thought that's been kicking around my cranium for a week or so is, that Smudger, in pre-season with the Maestro, might discover a new avenue of approach on the pitch. Many players have had lousy first seasons only to flourish thereafter. We would all just love it for the lad, especially his staunch admirers of which it seems are numerous. We still need reinforcements though, including at least a couple of biggish names.

Posted by: ron lambert  | July 15, 2008 11:58 AM

Mark wrote...

I think Dawson or Van Buyten would be good centre halves, Nicky Shorey for the left back role. Pablo Aimar in as the creative force we lacked last season, Derby County anyone? And if its a striker we need, well I would have got Peter Crouch, but not at £11m mind you. Now I would rather go for the Switz Eren Derdiyok, big, young, strong, good touch, could be the new Viduka.

That would give us a good team.

Given, Harper, Krul, Forster

Beye, Taylor, Cacapa, Faye, Van Buyten, Edgar, Enrique, Shorey

Milner, Gutierrez, Geremi, Butt, Barton, Aimar, Guthrie, Duff, Nzogbia

Owen, Martins, Viduka, Smith, Carroll, Derdiyok.

Id flog either Duff or Zog, Duff for the wages, Zog because he moans.

Ameobi can go aswell, release him if we must but he should never have been allowed to get near a football.

Posted by: Mark  | July 15, 2008 12:50 PM

Paul Patterson wrote...

Ron- I agree with the 100%er claim, but one of the biggest failures of the last ten years at this club was another 100%er- Scott Parker.

There was a lad who knew how to score a few and gave more than 100% every time he played, sadly over the course of two (woefully inept) managers, we saw a player retreat into a shadow and become a defensive midfielder, much to my constant annoyance.

This made him become frustrated with life ‘up here’ and forced his hand in moving down south again. Pretty sad really, because I though we had bought David Batty, Robert Lee and Gary Speed all in one.

David Batty was a rough and ready tackler out of the Don Revie- ‘Leeds will boot you off the park’ school and he could score a couple and create stuff. Price £3.5m

Robert Lee we all know about, a tackler that he wasn’t given enough credit for, a good captain, that he wasn’t given enough credit for and last but not least a top notch goal-scorer in his prime. Price £700,000

Gary Speed was lambasted in his first couple of seasons at the club, mainly because of the dire tactics of Kenny Dalglish, but in he and Rob Lee we had two mighty fine goal-scorers, Speed in particular was deadly from set-pieces. Price £5.5m

And dear me, they were all British and cost less than £10m. Robert Lee and Gary Speed would command £10m EACH, if you bought them now.

Lets hope Guthrie shows us a bit of all three.

Paul

Posted by: Paul Patterson  | July 15, 2008 1:33 PM

Nathan wrote...

"Alright, granted, his arrival is exactly a bold statement about the club's ambition"

Luke, I think you mean his arrival ISN'T exactly a bold statement. Or maybe you're being coy!

Good point on Bentley - if we can turn Guthrie into a good premiership player it'll be £2m far better spent than the £6m we paid for that blonde lass from Yorkshire.

Posted by: Nathan  | July 15, 2008 1:38 PM

Mal wrote...

I'm rather puzzled by your headline. Any new player at the toon is given a chance to show what he's made of. He'll be given a brilliant reception and then it's down to him. For what it's worth I think he'll be a great buy, will quickly establish himself in the first team and will quickly become a crowd favourite. He's the kind of player we love.

Posted by: Mal  | July 15, 2008 7:27 PM

Sy wrote...

The one comment I made is that the signing won't excite the fans or send messages of intent around the league, but I always give our new signings the chance the prove themselves...I think I was probably one of the last to give up on Albert Luque!

I also agree with a lot of what's been said in regard to what we need to get in order to start the season with a decent squad.

Just like Paul Patterson is with Joao Moutinho and Aaron Hughes, I'm desperate for us to sign Pablo Aimar, and had given up this hope this morning (Tues) when I heard he was on the brink of joining Benfica. But then I heard conflicting reports suggesting we were on the brink of hijacking the deal. My fingers remain crossed until the end.

Incidentally I'd like to see Moutinho too, but I'll eat my hat if it happens, Paul!

I'd still like to see some further housekeeping. I'd like to us move on Ameobi, Smith, Duff and, unfortunately, N'Zogbia. But unlike earlier in the summer, I think we need the replacements in before doing this.

I agree that Shorey would be a good signing. I'm not convinced by the Dawson link, but have always thought Anton Ferdinand might fit in well here...depending on the price. The swap with Duff seemed a good deal to me. However, for centre-back, Cuellar seems to be outstanding candidate.

As for Guthrie, I know little about him, so look forward to seeing more of him...as well as a few more signings!

Posted by: Sy  | July 15, 2008 9:58 PM

ron lambert wrote...

Nathan, I wouldn't call him a blonde lass to his face, in a pub.....would you?

Posted by: ron lambert  | July 16, 2008 12:52 PM

halfmanhalfkeebab wrote...

I suspect that Paul Patterson is Aaron Hughes' agent or a close family friend. For what other reason would he continue to plead the case for re-signing him on a seemingly regular basis? Hughes always gave 100% but it was not enough really. He was average at best and has faired no better at Villa or Fulham. He's certainly no better than we've got at the moment and that's not saying a lot. The next thing you know PP will be advocating the return of Robbie Elliott & Steve Watson!

Posted by: halfmanhalfkeebab  | July 22, 2008 11:57 AM

Rob wrote...

Good article Luke. I agree with the comment above that like all players he will be given a fair chance by the fans. All I would say is - Trust Keegan. Remember a certain Barry Venison who KK signed from Liverpool's reserves? He went on to be a fantastic signing and later played for England. He cost us about 250k too. Keegan will go for good passers of the ball & i've heard that's what Guthrie is.

Posted by: Rob  | July 29, 2008 10:44 AM

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