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The Controversial Sale Of James Milner

Posted by Luke on August 29, 2008 12:08 PM | 

So it's goodbye, farewell and bon voyage to James Milner in a transfer which has brought back vivid memories of the controversial sale of Andy Cole to Manchester United 13 years ago.

The sale of Milner to Aston Villa for a fee which could rise to as much as £12m due to the various clauses in the contract is a massive fee for a player who, as far as I'm concerned, has not get much better in the four years he has been at the club.

Milner was a promising, versatile wide England Under-21 international when he arrived from Leeds United for £3.5m in 2004 and he leaves for Viila for almost four times that amount as a promising, versatile wide England Under-21international.

However, that does not automatically mean I agree with the transfer. If it had happened at the start of the summer and there was plenty of time to bring in a replacement, fair enough, but Newcastle's squad is already woefully short on numbers and Milner could play in a number of different positions. Ben Tozer and Ryan Donaldson will be on the bench against Arsenal this weekend!

You could also never fault Milner's attitude or his application and, at the very least, he would have been an invaluable squad player this season who at 22, did still have the potential to develop into the top Premier League player some feel he can be.

However, could it be that there were those within St James's Park - not manager Kevin Keegan of course - who were looking to sell Milner as soon as Jonas Gutierrez - who plays in his preferred position on the right of midfield - signed on the dotted line?

When Cole was sold to Man Utd, however, it was Keegan's decision as he believed his side were becoming too predictable. This looks like it has been made above the manager's head for business, not football reasons and that is bound to infuriate the man whose job it is to win football matches.

If the money is reinvested in three new players before transfer deadline day on Monday I'll be relatively satisfied with the deal, particularly as it was Milner who handed in the transfer request because he was upset he had not been given the same sort of contract as Steven Taylor.

But the key thing is it MUST be reinvested because United's squad simply isn't big enough to cope with the demands of a Premier League campaign, as well as the anticipated cup runs which are supposed to keep supporters believing their side can finally win a trophy. The 4,000 missing fans aren't going to come back at this rate are they?

At this stage, with £10m received for Milner, owner Mike Ashley's net spending in the transfer market this summer is around £6m. Hardly the backing supporters envisaged when the billionaire took over. As for the "wow" signing he promised corporate sponsors earlier this month, we're still waiting with baited breath Mike!

I just wonder whether the money raised from Milner's sale will be used to pay for Michael Owen's new contract? Just a thought. Let's hear yours!

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Comments (26)

bailey wrote...

I was devastated when Andy Cole was allowed to leave. Milner I could not care less and if the fee is upto 12 million then well done NUFC.

If Milner had been with another club and NUFC were offering that kind of money for him I would be totally peed off at the waste.

Posted by: bailey  | August 29, 2008 1:04 PM

Little Lord Fauntleroy wrote...

I shouldn't believe it, but as it's the long-running soap opera that is NUFC, I do. Unfortunately, yet another business decision that is a HUGE mistake.
Keegan said his squad is way short, so what do the 'businessmen' above him do? Sell the most committed lad to have graced SJP in many a year and the one who stood out on Tuesday night. With him up front we looked short of striking options, without him we're f*cked! Viduka won't play til the weather warms up, Martins is in and out of form and there are still doubts, and perhaps always will be, about Owen's fitness/commitment to the club.
You may argue that Milner's a winger, but Keegan was talking about deploying him in a central role this season. Guthrie & Butt work well together but there's no flair and very little creativity from that position.

For me, this is worse than Shepherd selling Woodgate.
For all we hated the Fat ****, at least he made 'Wow' signings and got seats filled.

It's over to you now, Mr. Ashley. What you gonna do about it?

Posted by: Little Lord Fauntleroy  | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM

Little Lord Fauntleroy wrote...

P.S. We've sold him to one of biggest rivals for a top 6 finish.....Why?

Posted by: Little Lord Fauntleroy  | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM

Darryl Peel wrote...

Oh well doom and gloom finaly reaches the North East what with fuel prices, mortgage rates, job security, the weather, Mike Ashley and now James Milner. Although I think £10 million is a very good price for a player who plays in fits and starts, I just hope that the money doesn't disappear down a black hole, that money and more is needed not only to replace Milner but also for a center back. Hmm the credit crunch has hit all but what price is the thoughts of relegation.

Posted by: Darryl Peel  | August 29, 2008 2:08 PM

jes wrote...

Milner will be better served at Aston Villa, he will get a better look in regarding England due to Cappello's regular visits to Villa Park, keeping eyes on Villa's several other England potentials. He will have a manager who will be able to extract his fuul potential, something Newcastle have been unable to. Good luck to him and Aston Villa.

Posted by: jes  | August 29, 2008 2:33 PM

JC wrote...

Well Luke, he's gone and in some ways I couldn't be happier. Despite the praise for his work ethic I never rated him, quite the opposite in fact. Have just watched an interview with KK on BBC, quite a different point of view he's putting across from the interview post Coventry game. ANYWAY, I'm prepared to give this new regime one last chance, in my mind they have three days to make good on a horrific summer of comings and goings. If they dont I'm going to lead the chant of Ashley Out! They are so naive if they think they can trick us by leaking stories and getting KK to tow the party line. However I'm a massive believer in Keegan, there is nobody else for our great club. He feels that the club is moving forward, and I'm prepared to believe him even though every bone in my body tells me we are now a selling club with only profits in mind. Over to you Ashley........DONT disappoint!

Posted by: JC  | August 29, 2008 3:13 PM

Sy wrote...

I wrote on Lee Ryder's blog when the news broke this morning that £10-12m for Milner is very good business for the club, and, as bailey also said, that I'd be less than pleased if my club were spending that much on him.

It somewhat baffles me though that the club seemed to ship Milner out pretty easily in the end, in the aim of saving wages. Yet, when interest or opportunity to save the two most scandalous wage packets at the club came about earlier in the summer, they didn't take the chance. Obviously I'm referring to Smith and Barton.

If we could get Smith out then I'd be happy if we didn't even replace him, and instead used his wage for Owen's new contract. This would be a much better use of resources for me.

What interests me though Luke, is your point about Jonas preferring the right wing to the left. Is this definite? I thought that was the case when he first arrived, but was then led to believe that he was one of these right-footed left wingers. If in fact Jonas is as happy - and as effective - on the right as he is on the left, then I really see no major problem with Milner's departure, aside from the obvious squad depth issue.

I'd be hesitant to just say "Stick Jonas on the right" if Jonas wasn't at his best there or wasn't as happy there, but if you're right in saying he prefers it there, then we can keep N'Zogbia in left midfield and play Jose Enrique at left back. This worked so much better at Coventry than N'Zogbia at left back, and Enrique should be our only choice at left back at this point.

As for the money we've received for Milner, why not put it towards someone who will give us creativity, energy & wow-factor? Andrei Arshavin. If we got him for say £20m, it'd be in effect getting him for £10m because no-one expected the money for Milner to come in. That said, I don't seriously expect us to do anything of the sort.

Finally on Owen, I hope the one-year deal reports aren't true. If they are, expect him to be gone for £3m or £4m in January.

Posted by: Sy  | August 29, 2008 3:18 PM

Restless Native wrote...

What is it with Newcastle fans that so many of us seem intent on tearing strips off our own club - the same club we profess to love SO much?? No wonder the London papers constantly try to provoke us, they know they're guranteed a reaction. Passion really shouldn't mean destruction.

Little Lord Fauntleroy ... Fat Fred made WOW signings alright ... as in "WOW, we paid HOW MUCH for that total plank?!" ... Boumsong, Marcelino, Viana, there's a list as long as your arm ...and he nearly killed the club financially in the process.

Didn't Fat Fred also sell Les Ferdinand for a pittance? Surely THAT was one of the worst pieces of business in the history of the club. Especially when Al did his knee in the following week. I was at the friendly game when we protested the sale of Sir Les ... "you can stick your PLC up your a**e" we bellowed ... and how justified we were.

Let's get some perspective here. James Milner is no Andy Cole. This situation is not comparable. This is not even as bad as Ginola leaving. Maybe not even as bad as losing Robert, Fox or Gillespie. [Probably worse than Franz Carr going though, I'll give you that one!].

Don't get me wrong, I like Milner and I was happy to see him in the team every week. But Bailey makes a good point ... if we'd just paid £12M for him, I'd be shaking my head in disbelief. I work with a couple of Villa fans and they both think they've been mugged.

The reality is, we won't know whether it's a good bit of business until we know what happens next. Andy Cole left us - bad bit of business? Then Sir Les arrives - still a bad bit of business, or a stroke of genius? I trust Kev - and he's just said HE SANCTIONED THE MILNER SALE, PERSONALLY. I don't think Kev is too prone to lying, do you?

Keep the faith. Trust Kev. And give Ashley a break ... at least until he ACTUALLY does something to make us think otherwise. Because if you look at the facts, all he's ACTUALLY done so far is save the club from financial ruin, get rid of Fat Sam, brink back King Kev and sign some VERY good players.

Posted by: Restless Native  | August 29, 2008 4:37 PM

Brian Moorhead wrote...

Keegan would not sit in a press conference and say that it was his decission to sell if it was not true. I trust the man. So the media stiring of Ashley/Wise tinkering is probably wide of the mark. I think on Monday night we will be saying James Who......after we digest a couple of good signings.
Having said that, he is a good player who has shown great committment and professionalism, allowing himself to be cup tied after putting in a transfer request, so I would much prefer to be siting here on Monday saying "Damian who, Smith Who?

Posted by: Brian Moorhead  | August 29, 2008 6:34 PM

Paul Patterson wrote...

Luke, I’m absolutely furious, not really with the club, for getting £10m-£12m for a player, whose performances are sporadic and erratic, with the (Very) occasional good long range shot.

Yes his work rate is great and he’s English and he’s no trouble, but if we can get three players in for a similar figure (My personal preference would be a striker, left back and a centre back- In that order) the club would be better off in selling a player, that has his faults, just like any other player.

The person I’m furious with is James Milner- He could have done this three weeks ago, a month ago, two months ago or whatever, no, he does it five days (11 if you believe his original request) but nevertheless he was prepared to chuck the club into absolute turmoil, so close to a transfer deadline.

Personally it insults James Milner himself, for being so unprofessional and it also insults Kevin Keegan, who has stuck up for him and praised him to the hilt

So lets forget about the G.Y.P (Greedy Yorkshire Pudding) and concentrate on who to get in to enhance what’s already there. My solution is three fold.

1.- Sign a left back, it’s been rumoured we are linked with Timothe Atouba, which, putting my annoyance at losing John Arne Risse without a fight, he might be a good player to fight it out with Jose Enrique, also he probably wouldn’t cost a great deal.- £5m

2.- We need a right winger to replace the G.Y.P, I suggest one man, I thought about Aaron Lennon, but we would have a similar situation to James Milner, not entirely sure if the (London born) player will be committed to the North East club. But then I thought about this guy that has practically been offered Per Ciljan Skjelbred. Get him, before another club makes a move- If he’s a good prospect and he’s young and supported us to a boy, then fine. Sign the guy.- £6m

3.- Here’s the controversial one, the striker. He’s quick, strong, a target man, scores his fair share and had a good rapport with Micky Owen at a previous club (And country) He’s at a club that we could tempt him from and he wouldn’t cost the earth, music to Mike Ashley’s ears. The downside- he never ben flavour of the month at any club he’s been at (Or Country) and he’s 30. But for a few seasons, he would be ideal.

Anyone- feel free to shout me down if you like, but ask yourselves this- Is he better than Ameobi? Will he play more games than Viduka? Will he provide more to Owen and Martins that Shotshy Smith? Will he enhance the squad? The answer to all of the above is yes.

Whoops, almost forgot the poor fella’s name.

Emile Heskey. - £6m

There you go I’ve uttered the name. Let the debate begin.

Paul.

Posted by: Paul Patterson  | August 29, 2008 8:01 PM

dalupapa wrote...

James Milner may have improved alot during his days at NU, but i think im with KK of selling him in the end..
its a blow but i think it wont affect much for N.U.. who knows in monday we might get a "wow-he's-better-than-i-expected-" player...

Posted by: dalupapa  | August 30, 2008 5:35 AM

Andrew from Perth wrote...

Milner was never going to take NUFC to where they want to be. At best, he would fill the gaps this year; which is the most alarming thing about this sale...there's a lot of gaps! Anyway, good luck James. If he was from Mongolia, he'd be worth 2.5 million, not 10. I like the direction we're taking, not offering squillions to Owen who is a fabulous player but would get injured hailing a taxi, and not having wages dictated to by over valued dross like Milner. FatMan paying that cretin Barton G60 a week is a prime example of how this club needs a revolution in its strategy of operation, and happily that is what we are seeing. We'll struggle this year though. I agree with you Puke, 3 more signings. Over to you Ashley.

Posted by: Andrew from Perth  | August 30, 2008 8:07 AM

Joe wrote...

£10-12 million is a good price but surely Keegan could, in his own words, take the club forward a lot better with someone like Milner in the squad. Especially the fact that he is a good young English player. There will come a time soon where there is a restriction on the number of foreign players you can play. I cannot see us being able to bring in enough players before the transfer deadline. Why did we let him leave before we had a replacement signed. We have left ourselves in a very vunerable position. We should never have sold Andy Cole and we should never have sold James Milner. He will do very well at Aston Villa. Keegan must think we are mugs if he thinks we will believe it was his decision. Shaun Wright Phillips has gone so that probably only leaves Pennant as a replacement, hardly a wow signing.

Posted by: Joe  | August 30, 2008 9:32 AM

Shearer Legend 9 wrote...

What tosh!!!!! How on earth can anyone compare the Milner & Cole transfers.Andy Cole was our record breaking goalscorer who terrified every defence in Europe! James Milner,while being as honest as a days long & always one to give his all,is at best an average premier league winger who often fails to deliver good service to his forwards & lacks being a significant goal threat.Good luck James,thanks for all your efforts & i wish you well at Villa,but this move will allow Jonas to play his favoured position on the right & the club have recieved an excellent fee, which given the four players already signed this season, gives real optimism for incoming recruits.All in all,a very good deal for NUFC.

Posted by: Shearer Legend 9  | August 30, 2008 9:37 AM

Lesley wrote...

I'm just amazed that Newcastle seem to be having difficulty signing players when there are so many going in various different directions. lets get rid of Dennis Wise and save a large salary to start with that could be invested in better offers to attract players - I presume thathe is not onpeanuts. Short of players and we send one of our most applied players to our rival!!! God help us. Championship here we come.

Posted by: Lesley  | August 30, 2008 11:06 AM

Michael Nee wrote...

To Daryl Peel

Relegation haha, we are very safe from relagation, if you think milner was that good, then you should be needing glasses mate.

Again Luke, you just jump to conclusions and haven't used instances of similar stuff keegan has done in the past. Keegan has never said he wanted to sell players, but he has sold them. The reason why he said he didn't want to sell milner was to get his confidence up and to UP HIS ASKING PRICE. The club have played this one perfectly and it's about time we did another club over a transfer 12 million for winger with no pace, can't shoot and can't cross. Daylight Robbery and you will find 75% of the fans agree with this deal. Every player has his price we've got double for what milner was worth.

Posted by: Michael Nee  | August 30, 2008 11:14 AM

iain wrote...

what started off as controversial has now become the best transfer outwards nufc have done in years, in terms of doing some good for the club ie actually make a profit for once. a lot papers are saying its 12.5m. probably 10 for us when you take away what leeds are entitled too.

martin o neil has been right royally ripped off, £12.5m for milner when he paid 9m for young, hes only paid that for milner to justify his ridiculous stance on demanding 18m for barry.

arsenal paid 13m for samir nasri, does it need any more explaining.

Posted by: iain  | August 30, 2008 12:02 PM

byron wrote...

For an average,hard-working player,£12m is superb business. But why on earth did we sell Faye,the best centre-half at the club? If we can sign the likes of Saviola and Gomis, Milner will be quickly forgotten.

Posted by: byron  | August 30, 2008 12:07 PM

Stevie wrote...

10 million (possibly 12!!) for a player who can run all day, but without the ability to cross a ball or create anything in premier league matches!!! Thank you very much Mr O'Neil, who i'm sure will now have to re-think his moral high ground regarding the 'tapping up' of one of his players by another club!!! Top Tip James bonny lad....When you sign your contract try and understand that if it says 30k for 5 years, thats exactly what it means ok!! (just incase you feel under valued again mate, or should that be under-paid!!!) Greedy B*&^A*^!!! Trust in Keegan lads, and stop panicking, he's one of us and the players he's brought in are the best we've had since errrm!! the last time he was here if i'm not mistaken!

Posted by: Stevie  | August 30, 2008 12:20 PM

Liam Clarke wrote...

This has to be one of the best bits of business done by the club in ages.

Yes Milner was a true pro and yes he still has time on his side but he cant cross a ball accurately often enough nor beat a man and deliver a telling cross often enough either.

Furthermore his passing ability is limited and his first touch suspect. Even if he moved inside his shooting was also variable and not accurate enough often enough.

He was because of his age ie 22 still for me a work in progress anyway but KK can get two good players in for that money.

The Board are trying their best. Dont forget some of the last regimes deals were allegedly on the never never and MA has used his OWN money to get the club out of debt not ladle it with debt viz aviz previous owners and the Chelseas and Man Utds so he should be applauded for bringing good business accumen and a policy of buying good players with good prospects ansd selling those who are surplus to requirements.

The two Argentinians and Guthrie and Basssong are all good signings and have improved the team so stop moaning for Gods sake.

Posted by: Liam Clarke  | August 30, 2008 2:02 PM

William Gee wrote...

Hi there,
More good news from Tyneside, Milner has gone but our resident convict may play against Arsenal!
I have read this article and the previous one� Don’t judge sale of Milner just yet’ with my usual mixture of dread, optimism and suicidal thoughts. I particularly liked the quote “and if the club are able to unveil three or four world-class signings before Monday night, then the loss of the hard-working Milner will be accepted� I was so distracted by the pigs flying past my window that I forgot to put the stool underneath the roof beam.
A couple of weeks ago Mike-would I tell a lie to you-Ashley said there was no truth in take over bids and that he was staying put and “we are going to have fun with Kevin� I now know want he meant, as his gang of nightclub owners and failed football managers etc are doing just that.
On second thoughts that is rather harsh on the in-appropriate named Mr. Wise as he was employed by the appropriate named Master Bates of Leeds United to take them out of the Championship in one season which Dennis surely did.
KK must be in desperate financial straights to keep taking this treatment and his former about turn on Milner is rather sad for a man of his calibre and reputation. Let’s hope that rumours of a more local based takeover bid come to fruition Asap.
Keep the faith
Regards, William

Posted by: William Gee  | August 30, 2008 4:09 PM

M. Sebastian T. wrote...

Arsenal Children 3 Toon 0:

Today a very young Arsenal team totally embarrassed Newcastle and if the children in red had been able to shoot reliably the score line would have resembled that of a very one sided baseball game (about 12-0). Fans should forget the injury arguments because all premier teams have such obstacles to overcome. Basically King Kev cannot attract good players to join Toon, cannot keep good players and cannot get those he has left to play well. It is going to be a long fight to avoid humiliation by the end of the season in the company of teams like Hull. In my view Keegan should become the first manager to be sacked this season because he is utterly clueless!

Talk of a top 6 finish is silly.

Posted by: M. Sebastian T.  | August 30, 2008 7:55 PM

sports apparel wrote...

Milner would have not made a differents if he stayed or now he has gone.Until the club starts getting in some serious world class players they will always be a middle of the tabe team at best.

Posted by: sports apparel  | August 31, 2008 7:34 AM

RAF Mark wrote...

Sorry Luke but was it you saying to me at the start of the pre-season that Millner would not be sold. Lets face it as long as Wise and Ashley are at the club OUR manager will not get the players he wants as when he gets one part of the picture together they take another part out. I find it farcical bordering on theatrical that KK come out with the comments that he was happy to sell milner but gald to keep Shola...please tell me I am not the only one who can see through the farce that is obviously bubbling behind the scenes. I have never seen KK so un-motivated in past days he would have slatted the team on TV for that performance but instead seemed to be covering up the cracks or more abyss to come.

Posted by: RAF Mark  | August 31, 2008 11:25 AM

Commulus wrote...

I may have been irked about this evident oversight, had Milner been anywhere near the calibre of Andy Cole, but he wasn’t! He had glaring gaps of ‘Championship manager criteria’ missing from his game!…now anyone who has read any of my pensive puerile pontifications will realise that I know absolutely nothing about the beautiful game, so anything I say can be taken with a pinch of whatever it is you happen to snort! Milner gave his all, and was a ‘pro’ in the ‘Wallsend Boys Club’ sense…boring and predictable, and any quote given to the press could be written prematurely… he was that good! A trier, a hundred-percent, a model pro…And any club taking him on will see the player he can become, not the player he is!

If it were the Salford club, you would gamble your life savings that they could bring him on by identifying the failures…Villa though…hmmm! Cole was one dimensional, as Keegan gave his reasons for the sale, but the Salford club did a revolutionary thing, they turned Cole’s back to the goal after shin-splints, and he became a much more valuable entity…We never truly valued him, we saw what he had, and not what he could be!

What is missing from Milner? It has been said by some, that he couldn’t ‘put a ball in’ or ‘hit a barn door with a banjo’ it has been a failure of United to actually ‘bring on players’ and that means identifying the problem! And with Milner its been the accuracy of his pass…simple as that, putting the ball into the place where it needs to go…now whether that is a problem of vision or skill is open to interpretation! But somewhere, someone, could see, identify, and have the vision to persevere, I’m sure! Maybe someday it’ll be us…I won’t hold my breath, or indeed mourn the passing (sic)!

Posted by: Commulus  | September 1, 2008 2:18 AM

zulu wrote...

Seems like a good piece of business. Agree that if we paid 12 million for JM, it would have raised several eye-brows. Pity it was not Alan Smith and the Fat Aussie that was leaving as JM always gace 100% - so good luck to him at Villa. Also the on-going saga with Michael Owens will not help bring in the missing millions, reckon the truth will come out when KK leaves and his next autobiography comes out...

Posted by: zulu  | September 1, 2008 7:45 AM

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