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Joe Kinnear Is Here

Posted by Luke on September 29, 2008 12:49 PM | 

So Joe Kinnear has officially begun his new job as Newcastle's United temporary manager. There is a joke in here somewhere - get it - a bad one admittedly, but whatever you think about the Cockney Irishman you'd better hope he is able to do something to improve things at St James's Park.

We have no idea how long Joe "f*****g" Kinnear is going to be United's manager and, to be honest, I have no idea whether it's an absolute disaster or a surprisingly clever choice.

What I do know is that Joe has a tendency to swear a lot, he does not suffer fools and he will, in his own words, tell it how he sees it for however long he remains in charge. It might be four weeks, it could be six, but it might be eight. Let's be honest, it could be months so we may as well accept it and make the best of a bad situation.

I hope that is what he is telling the players this week because I thought they were a disgrace in the first half against Blackburn. For all of the talk of remaining focused and professional, they looked as though they couldn't be bothered at the weekend and simply went through the motions on the way towards another defeat - the fifth on the bounce.

I know it's been hard for everyone associated with the club since Kevin Keegan stormed out in protest at the club's transfer policy - or lack of it - but that doesn't give them the excuse to roll over and accept another beating.

In that respect, the news that Kinnear strolled into the home dressing room at half-time and gave a few of them a kick up the backside is welcome. It certainly got some sort of response in the second half.

Kinnear hasn't had a manager's job for four years since he parted company with Nottingham Forest following an unspectacular time on the banks of the River Trent.

At times he has appeared muddled and confused about what he is precisely doing at Newcastle, but he will at least restore some passion and determination to the dressing room. This is a backs-to-the-wall, them against us battle against relegation at the moment and Kinnear did well in that sort of situation at Wimbledon.

Football has changed, as Keegan discovered, but Kinnear consistently defied the odds with Wimbledon in the nineties and Newcastle need a bit of that never say die spirit if they are going to haul themselves out of the pit of depression they have fallen into.

I doubt very much whether he is the right manager to take Newcastle back into Europe, but that is nothing more than a pipe dream this season and he might just be able to do his bit to stop them tumbling into the Championship until Mike Ashley can find a buyer.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, these are desperate times and that requires desperate measures and would Terry "living of past glories" Venables have been any better in a temporary role which may end in just over a month's time? I doubt it. He hardly covered himself in glory with Steve McClaren and England did he!

Newcastle have a small squad with little pace and virtually no creativity. The defence is flimsy, the midfield stretched because of injuries and the forward line overly reliant on Michael Owen.

We may as well accept that Owen will leave Newcastle at the end of the season but who can blame him? It is debatable whether he ever intended to sign a new contract in the first place, but nobody can question his desire to help United get out of trouble. He has scored five goals already this season playing for a team in complete disarray.

I hope he does stay, but I hope for a lot of things. I hope the Ashley era is brought to a swift end, I hope the new owners are sensible as well as ambitious and I hope that, whether it is Keegan or not, Kinnear's eventual replacement is a good manager who has plenty of money to spend in January.

The last few weeks have been a horror story for Newcastle United Football Club, but you never know, it might be a story which still has a fairytale ending.... oh come on, it might!

Comments (11)

Brian Moorhead wrote...

It just shows how little Kinear knows about Duff, such an apt name, when he says that he is our savior. The man has only had about three good games for Newcastle in three years and I think at least one was a friendly.
Please, please, please prove me wrong!

Posted by: Brian Moorhead  | September 29, 2008 9:16 PM

edh86 wrote...

clearly an appointment absolutely nobody expected and you rather fear that the PL has changed rather a lot lot since Wimbeldon finished in the top 10. But still he's here know and we've got to get behind him and give him a chance. We have to get behind the team and the manager and not get on their backs because with their wages they really should be self-motivating, a good crowd does help!

and on the bright side, everton aren't doing too well and I dont theyve won at home yet this season. If they go out of europe this week and pick up an injury or two in the process who knows - we may just be good for three points at goodison??

Posted by: edh86  | September 30, 2008 12:09 AM

James 09 wrote...

JK has said NUFC are in "no danger whatsoever" of being relegated. He is surely making some kind of sick joke right?

We haven't a single point to show from: Hull, West Ham or Blackburn. Next up is Everton, City, and Sunderland. I can barely see a point in that lot. In fact...I can barely see much point in anything at the moment!!

Note From Luke
I'm sure Sunderland fans are looking forward to trying to kick Newcastle while they are down! I know what you mean about JK's comments, but I assume he is just trying to protect whatever confidence is left in the squad.

Posted by: James 09  | September 30, 2008 12:48 AM

Andrew wrote...

Joe Kinnear might be a better manager than the team deserves right now, so I agree Luke, we better make the most of it. After all, he was a decent player for Spurs, and Wimbleton were a "kick-ass" team under his management. MAYBE he can get these guys motivated enough to be first to the ball and have them start believing. Now is not the time for flair football, (maybe in the New Year?) just get Nicky Butt to stop giving the ball away . . . in dangerous positions. He tries hard but he keeps losing it and (to a lesser extent) so does Stephen Taylor. Our new Spanish guy up front (Xisco) hasn't made much impact. Which brings me back to Kevin Keegan . . . he might not be back for a while so we better just get over it. For now, we must give Joe a chance to see if he can make a difference. It's just that simple!

Posted by: Andrew  | September 30, 2008 7:01 AM

ronnie lambert wrote...

Some months ago when a 'reliable source' told me of monthly meetings in a backstreet Chelsea bar between Ashley, Wise, Mort and one of the other cabal, discussing the agenda of the club without KK's knowledge, I immediately felt uncomfortable about the club's future. When I later discovered that KK and Terry Mac at a European match, saw Wise and Jiminez skulking in a corner of the directors lounge not wanting to make contact, my heart sank. Woody and Modric snatched from under our noses and lifelong Spurs fan Ashley saying he hated Spurs, jolted my powers of perception, or suspicion into hyperdrive. I then started to think like the late, great Aussie investigative journalist Joe Vialls, who's motto for investigation was ' Cui Bono? ', or ' Who Benefits? '. It was obvious that Ashley's recent actions were not those of the man buying beers in the Bigg Market. He'd renegued on his verbal/public promise that Keegan had the first and final word on players in and out. So did Wise. His self-inflicted farce over the transfer window resulting in this mess, plus his total reluctance to speak to the cash-paying fans leads me to only one conclusion. That his ' FUN ' was, as a double billionaire lifelong Spurs fan, to eliminate Newcastle as serious competition to Spurs getting a regular European place and challenging the big four. His behaviour directly after Keegan walking was to party/celebrate with his rich buddies in the states. Does that behaviour display the mindset of a disappointed man, or one who has just won a massive bet, say with a fellow billionaire? CUI BONO?. He was NEVER gonna lose ANY money in this ' fun quest ', in fact, had he handled things better, he might have made a lot more than he will if and when he does sell. If he drags this thing out so that we do get relegated....mission accomplished. If our better players leave in January....mission accomplished. It will take a super-rich, seriously benevolent company to even get us back to being a safe mid-table team. We are not out of this yet. Joe Kinnear's appointment's almost like two fingers to us, with respect to the very amiable man, but he's still one of their clique. I also do not believe for one second that Joe's four match ban wasn't known about by them. Unless, all of the above is paranoic delusion, born of 48 years of mental torture I've suffered from every boardroom in my term of support. And if that's true, then Ashley's crew are no more than a bunch of Del boys, or more likely Rodneys. Jokin' 'ere? you're 'avin' a larf.

Posted by: ronnie lambert  | September 30, 2008 1:07 PM

Dave B wrote...

Luke - JK needs to instill confidence and quickly. Maybe he can adopt one of acknowledged tactics below in addition to turning the music up.

1) Them against us siege mentality - favoured by the red nosed one from Manchester. Stick up all the negative press in the dressing room and see how the boys respond. Potential flaws in this approach include hiring a team of wallpaper hangers at short notice and the whole first team having a slap your own face seizure like Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man. A risky approach.
2) Tell all your average players they're superstars - a Keegan favorite and can work in small doses. The flaw here is that Keegan has already tried this tactic and they're still playing like this. Raises the question how bad were they before?
3) Pretend your a rugby team - Regularly throw up in each others suit pockets, add sugar to the petrol tanks in the car park, and generally have a ruck at the end of every training session to ease the tension. Worked beautifully at Wimbledon, before they effectivley went out of business. A JK favorite so watch this space.
4) Ease the pressure and tell them to go out and enjoy and/or express themselves - The Gran Tourismo scores might improve but the football results won't. Also runs the risk of fringe players wearing black berets and reciting difficult poetry to get noticed.
5) Be creative in the use of a set of crocodile clips, a car battery and a bowl of water - It worked for the CIA, and to be honest we're desperate.

Note From Luke
I prefer the old fashioned method of an electronic drill moved slowly towards an open eye... that normally gets them to talk. But I'm not sure it's the best way to get a group of footballers to start winning games again!

Posted by: Dave B  | September 30, 2008 2:32 PM

ronnie lambert wrote...

Love your idea Luke, and the jumper leads and water, especially for the likes of chicken hearted superstars like Viduka, Martins and co. In SuperMac's day, they just injected sore bits with half a pint of cortesone and they were back on the pitch scoring goals in minutes. O.K. so SuperMac's had new plastic knees installed after years of crippling pain, but at least he played every game. Just look at the love and admiration we have for the man now. I battled on for 3 yrs. of cortesone jabs in my elbows as a bricklayer and it did me no harm. Mind you, I can't lift a full pint glass anymore but no probs, I went on to halfs and chasers. I say jab the lot of the shirkers with good ol' cortesone, prompted by the dependable ol' jump leads, then JOKIN' 'ERE will have a full squad of SuperMacs. What do you think readers? Answers on a postcard please to the paraplegic ward, Royal Victoria Infirmary.

Posted by: ronnie lambert  | October 1, 2008 12:02 PM

Nick wrote...

I just wanted to get everyone’s thought on the proposed takeover.

In all honesty who thinks the next regime will be any better than the current one?

I have said for a long time along with a lot of other people that there is way, way too much money in football. Chelsea and Man City average clubs have blown nearly everyone else out of the water.

I really do feel the only way we can go forward as club is by being owned by a true supporter who has the passion and of course a little bit of money to really want to take the club forward.

Why else would some one from Nigeria, South Africa or Asia want to invest in our club other than money?

Wouldn’t it be great if every club had to be run by someone from that individual town/city? I.e .a Geordie for Newcastle? Or a Cockney for Chelsea?

Note From Luke
You've raised a good point here Nick. At the moment everyone is desperate for Ashley to sell up and never darken Newcastle's doors again but there is no guarantee the new owners will be any better. Most people get into football clubs to make money, not to hand it over out of the goodness of their hearts. I don't think a new board will be in place in the short term, by which I mean a matter of months, rather than weeks. I just hope that, when they are, they know what they are doing, not just in terms of running a business, but also in running a football club. Instant success is not going to happen, they need a long term plan and they need to learn from the mistakes made by Ashley - refusing to speak about anything doesn't help build trust!

Posted by: Nick  | October 1, 2008 12:11 PM

andy wrote...

My view is that Kinnear is here to the seasons end and to a point wont be a disaster.

As i sat in the away end at Upton park bathed in sunshine (maybe it was to proximity to Bow Bells) but i could n't help but sympathise with Ashley. How that shower on the pitch represents one of the highest paid squads in the Prem (outside the top 4) is beyond me. This reflects on years and years of mismanagement where a culture of overpaying for has been mediocrity (step forward duff, butt, geremi and hobble forward smith, viduka, barton) has been allowed to prevail. Kinnear for all his limitations will send a few sharp messages to the pampered.

So what does this mean vis a vis the takeover. From what i here in the City there is a lot of flakey interest but no genuine bit hitters with deep pockets have come to light thus far. I think MA also knows this and is positioning it for an annnouncement come Xmas that he and the fans are stuck with each other.

Posted by: andy  | October 1, 2008 2:02 PM

Nick wrote...

I totally agree with your point Luke, we need someone who is going to come in with a sensible long term plan, who knows how to mix business and football.

More importantly they need to identify a decent manager and assist him in every way possible, dare I say it but similar to the Sunderland set up and in line with O’Neal at Villa.

We need five or ten years minimum under the same manager and regime. I am dreaming I know.

Like you said Luke someone that communicates would be nice.

I don’t expect to be competing with Man Utd or Chelsea, but can someone tell me why we cant sign the players Spurs and Villa get?

Posted by: Nick  | October 1, 2008 2:31 PM

ron lambert wrote...

I've just read about a South African consortium based in the U.K. that are almost choking on their mountains of money, vying for the toon. With a golden carrot dangling in KK's face to return, and have a stake in the club, possibly with Shearer as an apprentice who'll eventually take over as manager.
Plus, one of the consortium owns or owned a soccer club in S.A. and bought the Saracens rugby club in the U.K. Even if it's all tripe, it's made me happy for today. la-de-dah-de-doo...tiddly-tum-te-tum

Posted by: ron lambert  | October 1, 2008 2:31 PM

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