Football Hooligans In Amsterdam
I've seen my fair share of films on football hooligans and have even read a couple of books, but the idea of me taking part in a spot of football related violence is about as likely as Danny Dyer admitting he is as hard as a rotten plum.
But try telling that to Northumbria Police, who decided that was exactly what I look liked as I made my way to Amsterdam to cover Sunderland friendlies against Benfica and Atletico Madrid.
Alright, so I'm a little thin on top and have a shaved head and yes, I was wearing a hoodie - the fashion must have of any teenage gang member - and jeans at the airport, but I still didn't expect to be pulled aside by the boys in blue and stab vests as a suspected trouble maker.
When the officer saw I was from London, perhaps he thought I looked like one of the top boys from Chelsea or Millwall. Perhaps he thought he had got his hands on one of the main players in a previously unheard of Leyton Orient firm.
Thankfully, a little bit of quick talking, well more of a rushed "no I'm a journalist covering the tournament, honest, please don't arrest me, I'm not a thug" meant I wasn't prevented from getting on the plane. But the worrying thing is I looked the part, or at least vaguely resembled it.
My mum would be so upset. My wife would just say I told you so baldy. On the other hand, maybe I could complain about police prejudice. That's baldism that is!
Perhaps I should think about a comb over in the future when travelling on pre-season. I can't imagine Bobby Charlton ever got his collar felt. Or maybe the mad scientist look, like that mad bloke from Back To the Future?!
There are plenty of Sunderland fans in Amsterdam, although apparently some naughty Newcastle types were also intending to come over, even though the Utrecht game was called off to stop, shall we say, tension on the Dutch capital's streets.
As for the Black Cats, looks like either Marouane Chamakh or Darren Bent - possibly even both - will be coming to Sunderland in the near future, while Bruce is confident he will complete a deal for Marseille midfielder Lorik Cana over the weekend.
Decent progress in the transfer market after the setback of missing out on Peter Crouch.
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When the Fuzz asked your name, did you give your Sunday version of Luke 'The Head Hunter' Edwards?
I hope the locals in Amsterdam don't mistake you for a hooligan too, because they are mean Mo-Fo's!
Let's hope the comments left on this entry are less childish than the previous blog. 'My team's better than yours', 'our fans are more loyal than yours', etc.... Truth is we're both bad sides, Sunderland were just lucky that there were 4 worse sides in the league last season, rather than Newcastle who were only better than 2.
Loyalty shouldn't come in to it. The North-East is renowned for it's passion for football, it's something we all have in common. You can't blame Newcastle fans for not renewing their tickets. Would you buy a holiday from Thomas Cook if they had no Chief Exec and were on the verge of bankruptcy?
On the topic of Sunderland's signings, I wonder if Darren Bent will do a job for them. He had a turbulent spell at Spurs and his form was never good enough to keep him in the team regularly. However, a change might do him good. He was a good player for Charlton.
Didn't the Bordeaux president say Chamakh wasn't allowed to go to Sunderland because 'they weren't a big enough club'? (His words not mine)
I envy Sunderland's position regarding transfers, at least they can be linked with players. That's what makes pre-season exciting.
Interesting to read Rob Lee's comments today about Shearer, saying Shearer had arranged all our friendlies and had targets that he wanted to pursue. It's a shame.
Sunderland fans can laugh and make the most of being the top side in the North-East, but even they must secretly feel some levels of sympathy, or at least empathy, to our fans for the situation we're in, even if they'll never admit it in public.
LLF I actually agree with quite a lot of what you have to say. First off with respect to the childishness you refer too I think you need to look to Restless as the source of that. If you say childish offensive things then things kick off especially when they are insubstantiated. Of course you're not perfect in that respect yourself LLF are you. I refer you to Lukes blog on the world cup bids when you made the following statement "Money talks and I think a city with a capacity of 52,000, rail links and its own airport, will be favoured above an ex-mining backwater slum. I may be wrong, but I doubt it, so you've got to give Niall Quinn credit for trying, but sit down and be quiet now, let the big, experienced players show you how it's done." Childish or what.
Moving on I for one am happy to admit that I have a lot of sympathy for the plight of Newcastle supporters. FFS we've been there! I've always said that the NE fans are the best there are. We often forget that we do have one geographic advantage which is that our fans support the local team. These airhead players who won't leave the M25 just don't appreciate the hero worship they would receive if they came to SAFC or NUFC and delivered. The majority of Newcastle fans are top blokes and their support is to be admired. But the ones who have to go around shouting their mouth off - well they get the responses they deserve.
Back on the subject of Lukes post it does sound like you had an unpleasant experience Luke. I can't help feeling sorry for the police though when certain high profile footballers get off charges of affray with a defence that says something like my mate hit him and I thought he was going to hit me so I hit him 3 times too in self defence. Oh FFS. The worlds gone mad.
LLF I actually agree with quite a lot of what you have to say. First off with respect to the childishness you refer too I think you need to look to Restless as the source of that. If you say childish offensive things then things kick off especially when they are insubstantiated. Of course you're not perfect in that respect yourself LLF are you. I refer you to Lukes blog on the world cup bids when you made the following statement "Money talks and I think a city with a capacity of 52,000, rail links and its own airport, will be favoured above an ex-mining backwater slum. I may be wrong, but I doubt it, so you've got to give Niall Quinn credit for trying, but sit down and be quiet now, let the big, experienced players show you how it's done." Childish or what.
Moving on I for one am happy to admit that I have a lot of sympathy for the plight of Newcastle supporters. FFS we've been there! I've always said that the NE fans are the best there are. We often forget that we do have one geographic advantage which is that our fans support the local team. These airhead players who won't leave the M25 just don't appreciate the hero worship they would receive if they came to SAFC or NUFC and delivered. The majority of Newcastle fans are top blokes and their support is to be admired. But the ones who have to go around shouting their mouth off - well they get the responses they deserve.
Back on the subject of Lukes post it does sound like you had an unpleasant experience Luke. I can't help feeling sorry for the police though when certain high profile footballers get off charges of affray with a defence that says something like my mate hit him and I thought he was going to hit me so I hit him 3 times too in self defence. Oh FFS. The worlds gone mad.
Hey Luke. You didn't say. While you are in Amsterdam - did your team Leyton Orient have a game?
Wow what a pathetic attempt at defending, great goal by Scott McLeish though...
Stuart - top archivist skills, again.
Unfortunately, you're still an illiterate Mackem - it's UNsubstantiated.
And what exactly did I say that was unsubstantiated?
Oh FFS Restless what is it with you that you have to make yourself out to have a superior intellect to everyone else. First you have a go at some guy for getting his words in the wrong order then you pick me up on a typo. So what?
I mean if you must play this game then by all means check out your own entry below taken from Luke's piece on Crouchy that you were sad enough (by your definition) to want to get involved with.
“But just as quickly I thought, "oh what the hell, the sad Mackems always on comment on Newcastle stories - even when I ask them not to...”
So. Do I think you're illiterate? Well no. Actually you are quite good with the written word though a little verbose often trying to impress by using several long words when a single short one. would do. What you do lack is the ability to construct a reasoned argument based on generally accepted facts. You find it necessary to abuse people who you do not agree with and those who are more skilled at providing well reasoned arguments as described above.
While I would never want to attack those who disagree with me based on their intellect you can be sure I've seen nothing from you which gives me cause to feel inferior to you in my little cubby hole in Boldon Colliery library.
Why don't you just try commenting on the piece and make your point without feeling the need to abuse people?
By the way - I may be mistaken but the way I read Luke's piece on Orient v NUFC I don't think he was trying to be funny. He was being deadly serious about the plight of your club and the impact that the big club mentality is having on you.
Hi Stuart.
I do think Luke's Orient piece was intentionally funny. And as for my comments to you, I thought it was pretty obvious they were also tongue-in-cheek. I have certainly been on the end of far worse from some of your Sunderland friends (including homophobic abuse and veiled threats of violence).
My football club is in tatters, but I haven't lost my sense of humour. You and the other Sunderland fans on here should be laughing like hyenas, given the relative positions of our teams.
Anyway, let's consider that a line drawn shall we, before we bore everybody else to death?
Hi Stuart.
I do think Luke's Orient piece was intentionally funny. And as for my comments to you, I thought it was pretty obvious they were also tongue-in-cheek. I have certainly been on the end of far worse from some of your Sunderland friends (including homophobic abuse and veiled threats of violence).
My football club is in tatters, but I haven't lost my sense of humour. You and the other Sunderland fans on here should be laughing like hyenas, given the relative positions of our teams.
Anyway, let's consider that a line drawn shall we, before we bore everybody else to death?
Hi Stuart.
I do think Luke's Orient piece was intentionally funny. And as for my comments to you, I thought it was pretty obvious they were also tongue-in-cheek. I have been on the end of far worse from some of your Sunderland friends.
My football club is in tatters, but I haven't lost my sense of humour. You and the other Sunderland fans on here should be laughing like hyenas, given the relative positions of our teams.
Anyway, let's consider that a line drawn shall we, before we bore everybody else to death?