Newcastle United Are In Purgatory
So what did I miss? Erm, absolutely nothing by the sound of things and I've had enough. It's not even interesting anymore, let alone funny. Newcastle United have been in turmoil before, of course they have, but this is starting to look terminal.
At £100m, we were told there was plenty of interest. At £100m we were told something would be announced in the next few days, by the end of the week, at the weekend, at the start of next week. Honest, it's close! Yeah right.
The days have kept on passing without anything being resolved and the weeks in paralysing limbo have turned into months. I really didn't think things could get any worse after relegation from the Premier League, but how wrong I was.
Newcastle United are not just manager less and up for sale, they are in purgatory, suffering in agonising pain before the club is - we hope - cleansed by pure and idealistic new owners.
But will those new owners ever appear? It is starting to look doubtful isn't it. Could it be that the £100m is just the headline price, masking a load of hidden costs which have sent the interested parties galloping to the hills in Malaysia, America, South Africa or wherever else they have supposedly emerged from.
Think about budget airline tickets. They advertise flights for £5, but by the time you have paid the taxes, food charges, a baggage handling fee, oxygen costs and a surcharge for wear and tear of the seat you will be lucky to squeeze into with the skin left on your shins, the price is nearer £50.
Newcastle have debts and they are only going to get bigger with a wage bill which remains above the £65m mark despite the departure of big earners like Michael Owen and Mark Viduka.
New owners are not just buying a football club that has fallen on hard times, they are taking on a business which will burn their money faster than Gordon Brown loses voters.
And what is left for fans to support. The football club remains, but its one which leaves a bitter taste in the mouth. There is no Alan Shearer to restore faith and pride, just the same bunch of over-paid under-achievers who managed to get relegated in such dismal fashion last season.
The club may have denied Joe Kinnear is in line for a return as manager earlier this week, but that is like finding 50p underneath the big pile of steaming dog crap you've just nose-dived into.
Forget Leeds United, at least they still have a football club to follow in Coca Cola League One. If this carries on for much longer, if Mike Ashley is left in charge of a business he has no intention of bankrolling, Newcastle will head into administration.
In fact, the situation could be so bad they may even be putting the closed signs up at St James's Park for good. We haven't quite reached that stage yet, but when the entire first team squad hands in their transfer requests next week we'll be moving another step towards it.
To make matters even worse for the Magpies, they've gone and arranged a friendly against the mighty Leyton Orient on July 25. I fully expect the Os to hammer another nail into the United coffin as Geraint Williams and the boys gear up for our Championship promotion challenge.
Even if we fail, I wouldn't bet against playing Newcastle next season....
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At £100m, we were told there was plenty of interest. At £100m we were told something would be announced in the next few days, by the end of the week, at the weekend, at the start of next week. Honest, it's close! Yeah right.
Yeah right - I think if you care to check the back issues og the Journal and Evening Chronicle you will find out where all this 'news' came from. Remember you guys are supposed to be finding 'news' for us log-suffering supporters - yes we are the supporters who actually PAY to watch OUR football team!!!
Look at it another way - suppose the club is sold within the next 2-3 weeks and Shearer is made manager - all will be forgiven and the party begins - OK!!???
derek llambias is a pathalogical liar.
And we have reported the information we have been given from Seymour Pierce, Derek Llambias et al. Your beef is with them Baz, but if you want to turn this into a yours and mine football club issue that's up to you.
Luke, what has been the general response when the Chronicle has asked the club to state what has been going on? The reason I ask is that the more you look at what is happening the more it just does not make sense.
Why would he not just drop his price to get a sale, better to have £50 million in your hand and be done with it all than nothing in a years time (which will almost certainly happen if he keeps it and doesnt invest, which it is clear he wont). Just can't believe that a man in charge of a billion dollar business can be so thick! Which makes me think that there is some other game plan afoot, administration perhaps is his preferred option? Never ever felt so sick as a Newcastle fan. It's that bad I'm losing my passion for the club and may well jack it all in...then again we may not have a club to support in a few months time.
Luke
You and your colleague Lee at the Chronicle turned it into a "yours" and "mine" issue with that horrible piece "Are we all rowing in the same direction". As I recall, we all were. Unfortunately you two were in a boat with Llambias et al heading up %$@# creek! (without a paddle)
Neither of you ever did admit how woefully you got that wrong, selling out journalistic integrity for exclusives from inside St James'. Unfortunately they let you down from a communications perspective as they did us as fans. Maybe if you hadn't spend a couple of months at the turn of the year telling us all to give them a chance etc., enough pressure would have been put on them to make the necessary changes earlier and we would have stayed up.
Don't get me wrong, I fully blame Ashley and Llambias for the mess. I just don't think Thompson House helped!
Calm down, calm down Luke!!!!
I am not turning this into anything my friend.
What you don't seem to realise is that thousands and thousands of real supporters who PAY to go to football matches rely on people like yourself for real NEWS about the club.
Now its a lot easier for you to make a quick phone call to Seymour Price and ask 'Is there any news on the take over?' 'No?' 'Thank you very much, sorry for troubling you' than to maybe try to doorstep one of the guys and ask him direct. If he punches you in the mouth or gives you an earful what a story for you.
Unfortunately that's the sort of thing that only real journos do.
I don't think it's professional or helpful for a journalist to respond to a fan in the manner Luke did to Geordie_baz. We saw something very similar recently on Lee Ryder's blog, which I might add was censoring honest and clean commentary from fans including myself recently. My advice to you Luke is to remember your audience and respect us all instead of feeding us continual garbage. The poster who referenced your pandering to Llambias and his mob earlier this season is a timely reminder in my opinion that you are in a glass house yourself.
Luke wrote...if Mike Ashley is left in charge of a business he has no intention of bankrolling, Newcastle will head into administration.
I always doubted this but it is looking increasingly likely that it is going to happen and the worst part is that it is being done deliberately and maliciously to hurt the Newcastle United fans.
I've emailed SKY (mad I know) almost begging them to run an artcle on our situation. Not Just Davidd Craig reporting outside SJP I mean an artcle put together by with players, ex players, reporters etc in fact anyone who can bring this to as wide an audience as possible. We're heading for Oblivion & the more folk that bang on to Sky etc to raise awareness has to help eh?
Ryan, I reserve the right to respond as I see fit on this blog and what on earth gives you the belief I don't respect the readers? I have been reporting the information as it has been told to me. That is my job. If I have been lied to and misled then, unfortunately, that is passed on to you. As for the harking back to the Llambias interview earlier this year, we asked the questions you wanted asked and they gave answers you didn't want to hear and we got the blame for it. However, I agree, I was willing to give them a chance to put things right. They have failed to take that chance, the biggest error of all being the decision to leave poor Chris Hughton in charge when JFK became ill. If Alan Shearer had been given more then eight games I'm sure Newcastle would still be in the PL and Mike Ashley would have no intention of trying to sell the club.
Luke
It may sound like "harking back" to you, but the time you bought them was pivotal to our season and as you say if pressure had been put on them earlier then Shearer may have had a chance to save us.
In your opinion were the questions that you asked really the most challenging and robust ones that you received? Surely not? One of them even asked about a member of staff that had left weeks earlier! Also, whilst they may have been "our" questions, we kind of expected you (as journalists - it is your job you know) to do some follow up, delve into what were some very weak answers and put them under some pressure. You didn't. They bought some time. We went down.
Whilst we all accept that Ashley and co have failed in their duty of care as owners of our club, likewise you failed us earlier in the year as the voice of the fans. You know that you sold out for an exclusive or two.
That said - bygones be bygones and all that - we trust you won't be fooled again - and the general quality of your reporting etc. is very good.
Give the man a break lads, instead of moaning about an article written months ago why dont we look at the real issue at hand. We all suspected from day one Ashley was an idiot, no due dilligence on a club run by Freddie Shepherd? However we wanted to believe that because he has a so called billionaire he'd bankroll us back to the Champions league. How wrong we were! Accepting the fact that fat man wont walk away until his pockets have been lined, lets look at the real issue at hand.
Am I the only one sick at the procession of players lining up to say they are going to leave? These mercenaries are being paid premiership wages for league one performances! As far as I'm concerned they should all be keeping their mouths shut right now. I'm as sick as anyone by whats happening, but I do not need to read fat Kevin Nolan having a moan, if he'd kept his mouth shut at Burger King maybe he'd have actually been able to run a bit last season! Bar a few these players are a disgrace, should shut their mouths and get on with the job at hand. If they think they'll get away with the same inept performances that they did when KK left they are sorely mistaken. Yes Ashley is an idiot but he will soon be off, lets start putting a bit of pressure on the under-performing idiots at SJP to show some heart and return the club to where it belongs!
It is a good job that Thompson House journos weren't on the Watergate and Thalidomide stories isn't it? what happened to proper journalism doing some investigation into what is going on - for too long you have relied on your costy relationships with "club insiders". The reuslt is when the club insiders are in London your newspapers have no information to pass on - I seriously wonder why I continue to buy them.......
Hello everyone, I'm back!
At this juncture I'd like to remind every one that I was the first to call Mike Ashley a fat fraud and a liar about a couple of months after he bought the club, promised to stun the football world with signings, and then did nothing.
I was also the first on this blog to bag Luke as a journalistic scrote pimple, although my chief beef was not a literary one, rather that he was sitting idly while the journalistic gold-mine that was the Ashley Administration sailed by and did nothing, and not reflect my outrage. He's getting better though.
I also said we should have bought Harry Kewell.
I told you so.
After purgatory comes either heaven or hell and just now NUFC ending up in hell looks by far the best bet.
The oddest thing about the current situation is the mass denial of reality by both players and fans. Luke is correct that the most likely outcome is administration because the club is clearly financially insolvent. My guess is that it could not be sold for one pound to anybody who has actually examined the books. Ashley has surely concluded that pulling the plug is his best option. But he will not do that until after the season has started because otherwise that league authorities could simply have the club disbanded and replaced for the coming season. The Shearer obsession is also a sign of mass delusion.
It is worth making a wager that NUFC will finish next season with a negative points total.
Thanks for your response Luke, your comment about passing on the information as you have heard it is fair and I respect that. However my point regarding respecting your readers is based on your earlier rebuke of Geordie_Baz. I too reserve the right, as a buyer of your paper - and via the allocation of this platform for me to pass comment - to respond to you directly and in this instance I feel your tone is ill advised, especially in this current climate. I also stand by my opinion on how you handled the mid season Llambias piece and you certainly didn't ask any questions I wanted asking - in fact I would rather you had woken up and grabbed a whiff of the coffee beans with us lot and not visited them at all, rather than perpetuate the propaganda these morons peddled you. We are all beyond frustrated Luke, you AND me. But defensive and blunt feedback to clearly irate and desperate fans surely does nothing but fan the flames.
Stephen, maybe you should investigate the world outside of your bedroom! As for Andrew, you love me, that's whay you keep coming back for more! As for this phrase investigative journalism, if anyone else had given you any different or better information in the media, local or national, I could perhaps accept the criticism ,but they haven't. When people sign non-discolosure agreements secrecy is paramount. We are looking for updates and information the whole time but you will notice the rest of the media has given up trying. Like the rest of you, I'm sick of it, sick of being told half truths and so on but don't think I just sit here writing the first thing that comes into me head and then head home for the evening.
Aaaargggh! Luke that's the whole point of what we are saying. If you're sick of being lied to and told halve truths - expose it! Tell it like it is! Give us a cracking piece of considered, journalism and we'll all love you for it. More importantly your papers circulation will go up as we'll no longer see you as apologists. Writing trite pieces about player X being upset with things or former player Y criticising the regime is just too easy. Tell us what you were promised earlier in the year. Delve into the much vaunted 5 year business plan and expose its deficiencies etc. etc. That's real work and we'd all appreciate it. Thanks.
The Ashley regime has been utterly discredited already, they are on the way out and in many ways are no longer important. What is the point in exposing that or delving into their failed five year business plan? They blundered their way through two years on Tyneside, whatever their intentions may have been. End of story. Surely the real story is what comes next, which is what I'm trying to find out and keep banging my head against a brick wall in the process. It will be very interesting to discover the possible "hidden costs" I mention in the blog entry, but impossible to do so until the new owners are in place and care to reveal them. It's not a public company remember. As for the other criticism, I very rarely speak to former players (once this summer and that was Rob Lee on Shearer) and the recent player interviews in The Journal have been very strong ones with Steve Harper and Nicky Butt. Ok, during the course of a season there are times when we get the odd we will bounce back honest story, but that's the nature of the beast I'm afraid.
The interview you did had very little in the way of serious questions that needed to be asked. For years the local rags have been guilty of sucking up to those in charge of the club for fear of being cut out of the loop. For me nufc.com and true-faith offer the only true reflection of how things are heading/have been heading for years.
Its now to late - we are down and out of the prem - we have a majority squad of overpaid underperformong players and no manager with the season approaching fast.
9/2 to win the league. howay, wake up - how we ever let the scum down the road become better than us is beyond belief. It'll be years before we are ahead of them again. Its not just ashley. Shepherd and the halls are just as guilty. It makes you weep.
I think the worst thing Ashley has done is turn us on each other. WE are the clubs heart and roots and I think that's why we respect Shearer. He understands that.
I've wondered for a long time why an apparently astute businessman has sold us so badly down the river and if it wasn't for the fact that I think he's to greedy to lose the cash, I could be forgiven for thinking it was deliberate. There's just been too many bad decisions to be genuine mistakes. Why though?
Someone please restore our dignity and pride.
UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL!
Luke, with the fans basically kept in the dark or fed scraps to fend them off for a day or two by giving faulse hope please dont take any of the harsh comments to heart. yes some of the remarks are a little misdirected, you have to understand the many true fans are silenced by the doors of power slamed shut in our faces. We look to people like yourself, who can get inside not to just do the interview put stand up and be counted and say no if this the individual is taking rubbish. At the same time don't leave it at that but look to do another interview and get in their faces and say 'you promised this and we have seen nothing TELL ME WHY NOT!'. We need someone to not just ask our quesitons but ask them as we want them to be asked with passion and purpose, demanding real answers not just lip srevice. Please realise that the comments are out of frustration because you, Lee alike in the current climate have an even bigger role to play in the life of the B&W army.
RAF Mark - I completely agree. You made the point so much more eloquently and less emotively than my earlier post. We aren't trying to have a pop at the local journo's we want them to stand up for us and in return we'll stand up for them.
We need you to step up to the plate Luke. How about it?
RAF Mark, what are you drinking mate!!!
Luke mate, it doesn't matter what you write, you'll never please all the people who read you rag, so I personally wouldn't worry about any of the comments on here!!
As for Ashley & the TOON, if JFK isn't being made manager, then obviously someone, one of the potentail new owners have said a bog 'NO' to his appointment, so end of!!
Ashley won't take the club into administration because he'll get nowt from it, he won't get a penny & it won't look good on is current business 'Sports Direct' which is where he makes his money, so he'll not want to lose out twice!!
Now to all the winging TOON fans on here, get a grip, we're not down & out just yet but the more we carry on crying like babies, the more the other fans are going to rib us about it, so catch a grip will yer!!
Don't shoot the messenger. Directing your frustrations at our local journos is just a distraction - our wrath should be saved for the scumbags ruining our club.
We know who the villains are in all of this; Luke isn't one of them.
He's given the current regime a far harder time than his self-styled "true Geordie" oppo at the Chron. (And his written English is better.)
Don't always agree with you Luke; but I do more often than not and it's clear your heart's in the right place.
Good piece too. I think we could now go into administration just as easily as we could be sold. Feels like the survival of the club's balanced on a knife edge.
Guys give Luke a break, he can only report the things he's told by the club etc, its hardly a journo's fault if their spun the same lies as everyone else! Think Ashley is biting off his nose to spite his face a little bit, what with our relegation and a massive 91% drop for Sports Direct (where i'll add I picked up our last years away kit for a fiver online and they gave me a free mug) he's probably desperate, he's lost his billionaire status and if things continue he'll lose his millionaire status, surely he can't afford to keep it going much longer... saying that theres always a chance he blames NUFC for all of this and wants to make the club pay for his public lynching last year....
Cyrpus-Toon. Not sure what I was drinking the other night mate but if this carrys on I think it will be a case of not what but how much...cheers
It is Tuesday 21st July 2009 and from what I am reading in this mornings Journal I am more convinced that MA is not trying to sell the club but is just making sure he does not have to spend any money on players/manager/staff etc during the summer months. He will probably take the club off the market one week before the close of the transfer window and appoint Joe Kinnear as manager for the season. If you read today that the bank Seymours does not think a sale will go through this week it just proves that there were NEVER any offers that matched the so called magic £100m that MA wants. So we have had are loads of make believe stories to passify the press. I cannot beleive that 20,000 fans have bought season tickets, unless they had to under the 3 year scheme. I wonder if the Journal or Chronicle should contact the FA and see what they think of this farce.
Luke,
Why don't you just tap their voice mail and then we'll all know what's happening? lol
I sympathise with Luke. I've been in his company when the phone rings at an unsociable time and he's had to race off to re-write his back page.
I don't envy your job mate, I wouldn't be able to do it without confronting the board as liars, wide boys or paedos and where would that get you, or the Journal? Banned from the ground?
Interesting that people say it's going to be a critical time. I feel any proposed sale is already too late for a new regime to have any decent chance of getting back up this season. A lot of our divisional rivals have signed players we're being linked with and Ipswich, Forest, Bristol City, etc, are building squads that may well end up being bigger and better than ours come May. We can ill afford to be in this position.
They're dire times indeed, and I for one, haven't renewed my ticket, nor will I until Ashley departs.
My fear, however, is that Ashley will take the club off the market, as Restless Native stated earlier and appoint JFK permanently....
I sympathise with Luke. I've been in his company when the phone rings at an unsociable time and he's had to race off to re-write his back page.
I don't envy your job mate, I wouldn't be able to do it without confronting the board as liars, wide boys or paedos and where would that get you, or the Journal? Banned from the ground?
Interesting that people say it's going to be a critical time. I feel any proposed sale is already too late for a new regime to have any decent chance of getting back up this season. A lot of our divisional rivals have signed players we're being linked with and Ipswich, Forest, Bristol City, etc, are building squads that may well end up being bigger and better than ours come May. We can ill afford to be in this position.
They're dire times indeed, and I for one, haven't renewed my ticket, nor will I until Ashley departs.
My fear, however, is that Ashley will take the club off the market, as Restless Native stated earlier and appoint JFK permanently....
Luke I agree with you now; MA could leave this club to die and still won't have to sell his house and down size. From the outside it really looks like that guy has personal issues, hes over weight, gambles, recently split with his wife, lost millions on the stock market and his 2 main buisnesses are in free fall. he is sole owner of newcastle united and has a director that has not got a clue!! from what i hear DK said as much himself when he was offered the job. I MA bought this club as a toy and like every spoilt little fat boy when the batteries have run out they simply throw it in the corner and go and find a knew one. When the geordie supporters challenged him to fight last season instead of standing up and saying "right then, i'll have some of that!" he went and hid in his room. now his way of beating us and having the last laugh is to let this club fall to pieces aka spitting the dummy out or taking his ball away.. I do seem to remember that he made an agreement with the bank/ accountents or whoever looks after his money/ SJP that he would continue to put money in to the club at at leat 10m a season i believe? but i guess that would prob just cover the water and electricitly!? this man has major problems. He has hires Seymour Price to flog his club but what is the point if he will not negotiate? If he wont bugde on 100m + whatever is outstanding on the books he is basically tying their hands behind their back and he might as well get a local estate agent to tak it on for him.. it just goes to prove you dont have to be clever to have money...
Ashley has to be out to destroy Newcastle.
The guy is so dishonest and inept he cannot even sell the club properly.
If he takes Newcastle into administration we can only hope the same happens to him.
How can no one want a great club like Newcastle? Even Notts County can find a buyer.
Ashley is Newcastle's and our ultimate nightmare make us his nightmare.